MHB Help Me Solve This Differential Equation!

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation dy/dx = ln(x) - ln(y) + (x - y)/(x + y). The user successfully simplifies the equation using the substitution v = y/x but struggles to proceed further. A participant points out a mistake in the user's manipulation of the equation and suggests a clearer approach using the product rule, leading to a form that is separable but may not yield an elementary integral. There is uncertainty regarding the solvability of the equation, with some participants doubting the existence of an implicit solution. Ultimately, a potential solution form is proposed, indicating that the problem remains complex and may not have a straightforward resolution.
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please help me continue solving this,

$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\ln(x)-\ln(y)+\frac{x-y}{x+y}$

this is where I can get to,

$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\ln(\frac{x}{y})+\frac{x-y}{x+y}$

multiplying the 2nd term by $\frac{1}{x}$

$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\ln(\frac{x}{y})+\frac{\frac{x}{y}-1}{\frac{x}{y}+1}$

using the substitution, $\displaystyle v=\frac{y}{x}$--->$\displaystyle y=vx$----->>$\displaystyle\frac{1}{v}=\frac{x}{y}$

$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\ln(\frac{1}{v})+\frac{\frac{1}{v}-1}{\frac{1}{v}+1}$

until here I don't know how to proceed.. please help!
 
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You have a mistake in your third equation if you really multiplied by $1/x$, because

$$\frac{x-y}{x+y} = \frac{x \left( 1 - \frac{y}{x} \right)}{x \left( 1 + \frac{y}{x} \right)} = \frac{ 1- \frac{y}{x} }{ 1 + \frac{y}{x} }.$$

Therefore with the substitution $y = vx$ we have

$$
\begin{align}
\frac{dy}{dx} & = v + \frac{dv}{dx} \\
& \text{and} \\
v + \frac{dv}{dx} &= \ln (v) + \frac{1-v}{1+v}.
\end{align}
$$

Perhaps this is more tractable. :)
 
Actually, if one uses:

$$y=vx$$

We find by use of the product rule:

$$\frac{dy}{dx}=v+x\frac{dv}{dx}$$

This will lead you to a separable, but from what I can tell, an integral not expressible in terms of elementary functions.
 
then how can we solve this?
 
paulmdrdo said:
then how can we solve this?

Are you certain you have copied the problem exactly as given? I could be wrong or overlooking an appropriate substitution, but I do not see how to obtain even an implicit solution, and W|A cannot either.
 
MarkFL said:
Are you certain you have copied the problem exactly as given? I could be wrong or overlooking an appropriate substitution, but I do not see how to obtain even an implicit solution, and W|A cannot either.

Yes, I copied it correctly.
 
paulmdrdo said:
Yes, I copied it correctly.

The best I can do is give a solution of the form:

$$x=C\exp\left(\int f(v)\,dv \right)$$ where $C>0$.
 

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