Help Solve Lost Soul's S=an^2+bn Equation Problem

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation S = an^2 + bn, where a and b are constants, using given values for S and n. Participants explore methods to find the coefficients a and b through substitution and simultaneous equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their approach of rearranging the equation into quadratic form and substituting values for n and S, but encounters a 0 = 0 scenario.
  • Another participant suggests that the problem is overcomplicated and proposes using a system of equations derived from substituting values for S and n to solve for a and b.
  • A third participant emphasizes the need for two equations to solve for the two unknowns, indicating that without this, there could be an infinite number of solutions for a and b.
  • Further, a participant encourages choosing any two equations from the derived set to solve for a and b, and then testing the remaining equations to verify the solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to use a system of equations to find a and b, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the necessity of all equations provided.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that using only two equations may lead to a valid solution, but the implications of selecting different pairs of equations are not fully explored. There is also uncertainty regarding the redundancy of the equations derived from the initial values.

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The problem is:

S = an^2 + bn

Where a and b are constants.

Possible values for S are: 6, 15, 27, 42 and 60
Possible values for n are: 1 when S=6, 2 when S=15, 3 when S=27, 4 when S=42 and 5, when S=60.

I am asked to find the values of a and b.

The way I tried to tackle it was sort it out into quadratic form:

an^2 + bn - s = 0

I then substituted suitable values for n and s. After that, I rearrange the equation so I can get the value of of either b or a and try to solve it using simultaneous equations.

I've tried many times to find the values of a or b but everytime I end up with a 0 = 0 scenario and in the case of S=60 and n=5:

0(5^2) + 0(5) - 60 does not equal 0.

My other idea is to use quadratic formula somehow to find the coefficients of n^2 and n but I can't find anything about solving it this way.

I would appreciate it if somebody with a good sturdy brain could please help a dumb richard like myself.
 
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I'm afraid if I tell you, you're going to murder yourself. You've definitely overcomplicated the entire problem.

Given that information we can sub in values for S and n respectively to develop the following equations:

[tex]\begin{align*}<br /> 6 &= a(1)^{2} + b(1)\\<br /> &= a + b\\<br /> \\<br /> 15 &= a(2)^{2} + b(2)\\<br /> &= 4a + 2b\\<br /> \\<br /> 27 &= a(3)^{2} + b(3)\\<br /> &= 9a + 3b\\<br /> \\<br /> 42 &= a(4)^{2} + b(4)\\<br /> &= 16a + 4b\\<br /> \\<br /> 60 &= a(5)^{2} + b(5)\\<br /> &= 25a + 5b\\<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]

We don't even need all of those equations. Three fifths of those equations are redundant. We can take any two (it's easiest to take the first two) and solve for a and b with the classic "system of equations". Elimination, to be precise. I hope this is all you need. You should be able to take it from here.
 
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This problem ask you to use two equations to solve two unknowns, or else there's an infinite number of solutions for a and b.
 
Ok, as others have pointed out. So just choose 2 equations randomly, the 2 that you think you like best from the 5 equations above. Then solve for a, and b.
Then we use the 3 rest equations to test, i.e, we'll plug the value of a, and b in the 3 equations. If they all hold, then a, and b are your solutions. If one of them does not hold, then this system of equations has no solution. Can you get this?
Canyou go from here? :)
 

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