Help solving non-linear ODE analytically

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The discussion revolves around finding an analytical solution to the non-linear ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by $$0 = F F''+\left.2F'\right.^2+ xF' + F$$. Participants explore various approaches and potential solutions, including specific forms of F and methods for solving differential equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to manipulate the original equation into different forms but finds that these approaches fail to yield a solution.
  • Another participant suggests that F = -x is a particular solution, although this claim is later challenged as not being a valid solution to the equation.
  • A different participant proposes that if F(x) = kx^2, the terms can be arranged such that their sum equals zero by appropriately choosing k.
  • A later reply mentions that the exact solution is known to be $$3(x^{1/3}-x^2)/10$$ but expresses a desire to understand how to derive this solution without resorting to guessing.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of specific proposed solutions, and multiple competing views on how to approach the problem remain evident throughout the discussion.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the validity of certain solutions and methods, and there are unresolved aspects related to the derivation of the exact solution mentioned.

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Hi PF!

Anyone have any ideas for a solution to this $$0 = F F''+\left.2F'\right.^2+ xF' + F$$ where primes denote derivatives with respect to ##x##.
So far I have tried this $$0=\left( F F'\right)'+\left({xF}\right)'+\left.F'\right.^2$$

Which obviously failed. I also thought of this $$0 = F^2 F''+2F\left.F'\right.^2+ xFF' + F^2\\
= (F'F^2)' + (xF^2)'+xFF'$$
which also fails. Any ideas? I know an analytic solution exists, but how to derive it?
 
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joshmccraney said:
Hi PF!

Anyone have any ideas for a solution to this $$0 = F F''+\left.2F'\right.^2+ xF' + F$$ where primes denote derivatives with respect to ##x##.

F = -x is a particular solution. Look up how to do the "reduction of order" of a differential equation. (I say look it up, because I'd have to look it up myself before attempting to explain it.)
 
Stephen Tashi said:
F = -x is a particular solution. Look up how to do the "reduction of order" of a differential equation. (I say look it up, because I'd have to look it up myself before attempting to explain it.)
That's an idea, which is all I'm asking for. But ##-x## doesn't solve this. Comes close though.
 
joshmccraney said:
Hi PF!

Anyone have any ideas for a solution to this $$0 = F F''+\left.2F'\right.^2+ xF' + F$$ where primes denote derivatives with respect to ##x##.

I know an analytic solution exists, but how to derive it?

If F(x) = kx^2 then every term on the right is a constant times x. You can then choose k so that those constants sum to zero.
 
Thanks! I do know the exact solution is ##3(x^{1/3}-x^2)/10## but was wondering how to find this solution apart from guessing.
 

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