Highland Games Hay Toss: Solving for Time and Direction in 2D Kinematics

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The discussion revolves around a 2D kinematics problem related to the hay toss event in the Highland Games. Participants are tasked with determining the time at which the speed of a thrown bale of hay reaches 7 m/s and the time it moves at a 45° angle below the horizontal after being tossed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to solve for time and direction. One participant successfully calculates the time for part (a) but expresses confusion regarding part (b). There are questions about the relationship between the components of velocity at specific angles.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints and guidance regarding the approach to part (b), suggesting the use of vertical components of velocity. There is an acknowledgment of confusion and over-analysis among participants, but no consensus has been reached on the solution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment with a looming deadline. There is a mention of potential over-analysis of the problem, indicating that some participants may feel pressure to arrive at a solution quickly.

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2D Kinematic Equation! Need Help! I have a test tomorrow!

Homework Statement


One of the most popular events at highland games is the hay toss, where competitors use a pitchfork to throw a bale of hay over a raised bar. Suppose the initial velocity of a bale of hay is varrowbold = (1.32 m/s)xhatbold + (8.85 m/s)yhatbold.
(a) After what minimum time is its speed equal to 7 m/s?

(b) How long after the hay is tossed is it moving in a direction that is 45.0° below the horizontal?





Homework Equations


I figured out the answer to part A using the quadriatic equation by saying that ...
t=2Vnotyg+-sqrt of (-2Vnotyg)^2 - 4(g^2)(Vnotx^2+Vnoty^2-V^2)/2(g^2).
I came up with the right answer of .201s.

I am stuck with part B. I don't know if I am overanalizing it or what. Someone please help!
 
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matt@USA said:

Homework Statement


One of the most popular events at highland games is the hay toss, where competitors use a pitchfork to throw a bale of hay over a raised bar. Suppose the initial velocity of a bale of hay is varrowbold = (1.32 m/s)xhatbold + (8.85 m/s)yhatbold.
(a) After what minimum time is its speed equal to 7 m/s?

(b) How long after the hay is tossed is it moving in a direction that is 45.0° below the horizontal?





Homework Equations


I figured out the answer to part A using the quadriatic equation by saying that ...
t=2Vnotyg+-sqrt of (-2Vnotyg)^2 - 4(g^2)(Vnotx^2+Vnoty^2-V^2)/2(g^2).
I came up with the right answer of .201s.

I am stuck with part B. I don't know if I am overanalizing it or what. Someone please help!

When it is moving at 45 degrees, the verticla (y) and horizontal (x) component are the same size.
At 45 degrees down means the y-component is 1.32 down.
 
So I would say 1.32sin45, which would equal what? I am confused ... My mind is scrambled right now.
 
matt@USA said:
So I would say 1.32sin45, which would equal what? I am confused ... My mind is scrambled right now.

The original velocities given didn't have a sin45 component, so why did you put one in.

Hint: at what time will the hay bale have a vertical component of 5 m/s down? If you can work that out, you can solve part (b) in a similar way
 
So I would use the Vy=Voy+Ayt right? And since Voy=0, the equation would be t=Vy/Ay?
 
Nm, I got it! It was t=x+y/g! I am over analizing this stuff way too much!
 

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