What is the History of Aether Theories and their Mathematical Basis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the historical development of aether theories and their mathematical foundations, particularly in the context of electromagnetic theory as influenced by Maxwell. Participants express interest in exploring the origins and evolution of these theories, while also seeking resources and literature that address the topic seriously.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Historical
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is writing a paper on aether theories and seeks guidance on where to start, noting the general dismissal of aether theories in contemporary discourse.
  • Another participant suggests several resources, including Whittaker's "A History of the Theories of Aether & Electricity" and other historical texts related to electricity.
  • A participant mentions having read Whittaker and Heilbron but is looking for additional serious literature on aether theories.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of publishing works on aether theories, with some editors reportedly viewing them as unworthy of serious consideration.
  • One participant references Andrew Warwick's "Masters of Theory" as relevant background material, despite it not focusing exclusively on aether theory.
  • Historical perspectives on light theories are discussed, including Huygens' and Newton's contrasting views, as well as Euler's support for aether theories.
  • A participant recalls an old book on the theories of light and questions its title, leading to a suggestion that it may be "Theories of Light: From Descartes to Newton" by Sabra.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a shared interest in the historical context of aether theories and seek additional resources, but there is no consensus on the validity or relevance of aether theories in modern physics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the significance and treatment of aether theories in academic literature.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenges in finding serious academic treatment of aether theories and the perception of these theories within the scientific community. There is also mention of historical figures and their differing views on light and aether, reflecting the complexity of the topic.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and researchers in the fields of physics, history of science, and philosophy of science, particularly those exploring the evolution of electromagnetic theory and historical perspectives on aether theories.

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Heya, I am writing a paper at the moment on aether theories from an historical perspective. I am mostly interested in the mathematical basis of aether theories starting from when Maxwell unified electric and magnetic fields.

What I would like to know is if anybody has any idea where to start, or how to go about this topic. It seems like everybody (rightly) laughs in the face of aether theories, and forgets where they actually come from.

Note: This paper is for an assignment in EM class (honours level) so it has to be pretty impressive!

Opinions? Question? Comments? Insane laughter?
 
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I have read a copy of Whittaker, and also a book by Heilbron on 17th and 18th century electricity. I am wondering if there is anywhere other than these two books that deals with aether theories in a serious way.
 
Aether theories have a hard time getting published. Most journal editors consider them about as interesting as flat Earth theories.
 
This is sort of from a different view, with no 'new' theory being investigated. I guess I was just hoping to get more ideas of where to search.
 
Have you read Andrew Warwick's "Masters of theory"?
It isn't as such a history of aether theory, but a study of the evolution of the education&culture in mathematical physics at Cambridge.

The latter parts, however, dealing with Maxwell and later on, the Cambridge mathematicians' reception of relativity is, at least, relevant historical background material.
Here's a review of it in "american scientist":
http://www.americanscientist.org/te...etail/assetid/32663;jsessionid=aaa9GcNQuZWZ5b
 
There was an old book called "Theories of Light, from Fermat to (who? can't recall)" . It was mostly a very careful treatment of Fermat's ideas of light and how he proved Snell's law of refraction. Of course the original "ether theory" was Huygen's, if you except the late Aritotelians' "propagation of species". It's important to recall that Newton criticised Hygen's theory, which he conceived to be based on longitudinal vibrations, as being unable to acount for the double refraction from crystals of Iceland Spar. This is the same argument, modulo only the decimal places of accuracy, that is made today to assert the masslessness of the photon.

Euler was also an etherist, although almost all other thinkers of the eighteenth century were corpusculists, following (as they thought) Newton. Newton himself notoriously thought that light was carried by corpuscles which "had fits" af wave behavior. Some enthusiasts have interpreted this as showing he had a wave-particle duality in mind. That's over the top, but he really was more subtle than most of the thinkers of that time.
 
selfAdjoint said:
There was an old book called "Theories of Light, from Fermat to (who? can't recall)" .
Is that "Theories of Light: From Descartes to Newton" by Sabra?
 
Thanks, I'll have a look at that one... we actually have it in our library...
 

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