Hope for Change: Reversing the Bush Legacy

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The discussion centers around the potential for reversing policies established during President Bush's administration, particularly in relation to executive orders on issues such as stem cell research and energy policies. Participants express their hopes and concerns regarding the incoming Obama administration's approach to governance and the Republican response.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express hope that President-elect Obama will reverse negative changes made by Bush, particularly through executive orders.
  • John Podesta's comments are referenced, suggesting that Obama can act quickly without waiting for Congress, which some see as a positive opportunity for change.
  • Concerns are raised about the Republican Party's role as a check on Obama's power, with mixed feelings about whether this will hinder progress or serve as a necessary balance.
  • Some participants argue that if Republicans obstruct successful programs, they may ultimately harm their own position and effectiveness.
  • There is a mention of ongoing budget issues in California, highlighting frustrations with the current political climate and its impact on governance.

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Participants generally express a mix of hope and concern regarding the balance of power between the incoming administration and the Republicans, indicating that multiple competing views remain on the effectiveness and implications of this dynamic.

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Participants reference specific political figures and their statements, which may reflect broader political sentiments and uncertainties about future governance. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of the political landscape or the implications of executive actions.

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This article really gives me hope that we are going to see a lot of the negative changes that Bush made reversed.

President-elect Obama's transition chief said Sunday the incoming administration is looking to reverse President Bush's executive orders on stem cell research, oil and gas drilling and other matters.

John Podesta said the president can use such orders to move quickly without waiting for Congress to act, highlighting the extraordinary powers a president can wield beyond signing legislation approved by Congress. Podesta said people should expect Obama to use those powers to reverse many policies of the Bush administration.

"I think across the board, on stem cell research, on a number of areas, you see the Bush administration even today moving aggressively to do things that I think are probably not in the interest of the country," Podesta said in a broadcast interview.

"There's a lot that the president can do using his executive authority without waiting for congressional action, and I think we'll see the president do that," Podesta said.

I hope that the Republicans aren't going to fight him tooth and nail on everything. I'm referring to
But Rep. Eric Cantor also said to expect Republicans to serve as a check against the power held by Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat from California.

"There is going to be, I think, a willingness to try and get things done," Cantor said. "But at the end of the day I think you will see a Republican Party in Congress serving as a check and a balance against Mr. Obama's power and Speaker Pelosi's power."
I don't necessarily see that as a good thing when you consider the changes that Obama wants to bring about. Serving as a "check and balance" is one thing, serving as a means of continuing what we have seen happen the last eight years, no.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081109/ap_on_el_pr/obama
 
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Evo said:
I hope that the Republicans aren't going to fight him tooth and nail on everything. I'm referring toI don't necessarily see that as a good thing when you consider the changes that Obama wants to bring about. Serving as a "check and balance" is one thing, serving as a means of continuing what we have seen happen the last eight years, no.

I agree completely. Let's hope that it will be a case of "check and balance" that includes conscious thought and reason and not just a teenage-type stubbornness in refusing every proposal out of principle and without merit.
 
I think the danger that the Republicans face in being a "check" is in not being obstructionists.

To the extent that they stand in the way of successful programs their balance may only be a check to themselves.
 
The Californians have been in this "check and balance" mumbo-jumbo since the beginning of summer, when the budget was already overdue... We still don't have a budget to this day...
 

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