How are mathematical concepts translated into illustrations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores how physicists translate scientific concepts into visual illustrations, including the processes involved, the tools used, and the historical context of notable illustrations. It touches on the role of imagination in visualization and the interaction between physicists and illustrators.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that physicists create illustrations by starting with an idea and refining it based on feedback, often using computer software but sometimes drawing free-hand.
  • One participant mentions the rubber-sheet model as a well-known illustration of gravity and questions the importance placed on the identity of the original creator.
  • Another participant identifies Flamm's paraboloid from 1916 as a significant early illustration related to space-time curvature.
  • There is a discussion about the role of imagination in transitioning from concepts to visualizations, with one participant noting that visualizations may not always accurately represent the theories they aim to portray.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of 'thought experiments' as having a strong visualization component, referencing Einstein's work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the processes and importance of illustrations in physics, with no clear consensus on the significance of specific historical illustrations or the role of imagination in scientific visualization.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions highlight the subjective nature of visual interpretations and the potential for varying interpretations of the same scientific concept. The conversation also reflects on the informal nature of communication between physicists and illustrators.

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How does physicist translate their scientific concept into an image or illustration to make it comprehensible and visual. Does the physicist make use of computer-software to produce this illustrations? Who made the first very well-known illustration of gravity that causes space-time to curve around massive objects? Where can I find more information about the creators of animations or illustrations. How does physicist explain this to illustrators so they can make the theory into an image or animation?
 
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I'll do my best but the answers are pretty much the same as for anyone...
Alice 123 said:
How does physicist translate their scientific concept into an image or illustration to make it comprehensible and visual.
The same way any picture is made - you start with an idea of what you want to illustrate and then you draw it. If it doesn't work, you listen to the objections and draw a new picture until you get one that does work.

Does the physicist make use of computer-software to produce this illustrations?
These days - yes. Not always though ... lecturers often free-hand draw pictures in class. I think that the vast majority of educational diagrams are drawn free-hand on the spur of the moment.

The skill to draw 3D perspective pictures and educational diagrams is taught to science students at secondary level but they are exposed to such images from much earlier so they already have an idea of what sort of thing works. Drawings, in physics, are part of the language - the skills are learned like any language skill: by doing.

Who made the first very well-known illustration of gravity that causes space-time to curve around massive objects?
Probably the person who first published the rubber-sheet model. Don't know - don't really care. This is common in sciences, we tend not to put a lot of stock in the diagrams as artworks.
You could ask what is the oldest image of this model that is readily called to mind and get a different answer from different people. For me it was the movie Black Hole.
I wonder what diagrams Einstein used in the GR paper... it's available online, you could look.

Where can I find more information about the creators of animations or illustrations.
In the credits for the image or the animation.
A history of physics diagrams and imagery would make a nice thesis topic I guess ... check with a history or art department.

How does physicist explain this to illustrators so they can make the theory into an image or animation?
The same way anyone who wants something drawn does ... we make a bit of a sketch and wave our arms about a lot. The illustrator asks questions and makes sketches back and we pick the ones that are closest and suggest changes and so on until it is good enough for publication. It helps that we are taught, and encouraged, to draw from early on. There is a technical phrase for this sort of to-and-fro between two people, it's called "having a conversation". When we want someone to do some work for us we have a conversation with them until we are satisfied that they understand what is required of them.
 
Who made the first very well-known illustration of gravity that causes space-time to curve around massive objects?
It is called Flamm's paraboloid, and dates back to 1916. You can see it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_metric
There is also a reference to the original publication.
 
Thank you for your reply's! I understand little of physics but it excites me tremendously. I'm very interested in the transition from concept to visualization because imagination plays an important role here. I have found that visualizations of concepts do not always call the theory that they wants to portray. That it can be a matter of interpretation. I find it very interesting that imagination is used to convey accurate scientific knowledge. Imagination play's during the conversation between the illustrator and the physicist. Afterwards the visualization of the theory allows the viewer to use his imagination as well to interpret the visualization. But I know that this forum is not the right place for this kind of topic about imagination.
 
This may not be precisely relevant to your query, but 'thought experiments', such as those conducted by Einstein, can have a strong visualisation component to them.
 

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