How Can I Determine ε and σ for Lennard Jones Potential in an FCC Structure?

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The discussion revolves around determining the parameters ε and σ for the Lennard-Jones potential in a face-centered cubic (FCC) structure, given specific values for the net parameter and potential energy per mole.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the distance r using the net parameter and the potential energy per atom. There is a recognition of the challenge in having only one equation with two unknowns, leading to questions about finding additional equations or relationships.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the distance r in relation to the potential, and one suggestion involves finding the derivative of the potential to establish another equation. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of the relationships between the parameters.

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There is mention of a potential formula correction, indicating that assumptions about the form of the Lennard-Jones potential may be under discussion. The context includes the challenge of determining parameters from limited equations.

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Homework Statement


I have a fcc structure, the net parametre is 4.46*10-10m, the potential energy/mol is -1.88kJ/mol. My task is to find the parametres ε and σ of the potential.

Homework Equations



Φ=-4ε[(σ/r)6+(σ/r)12]

The Attempt at a Solution


I can find the value of r using the net paramentre; r=[(√2)/4]*a.
If I divide the potential energy/mol by 6.02*1023 I can find the potential energy/atom, but I still have only one equation with both of the parametres to determine.
I have to find another equation with one or both paramentres, but I don't know where to find it.

All sugestions are appreciated.
Thank you very much.
 
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You know that this distance r in your material is at a special point of the potential. Otherwise the distance would increase or decrease.
 
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Helpless guy said:

Homework Statement


I have a fcc structure, the net parametre is 4.46*10-10m, the potential energy/mol is -1.88kJ/mol. My task is to find the parametres ε and σ of the potential.

Homework Equations



Φ=-4ε[(σ/r)6+(σ/r)12]

There is a mistake in the formula. It should be Φ=-4ε[(σ/r)6-(σ/r)12]
Helpless guy said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I can find the value of r using the net paramentre; r=[(√2)/4]*a.
If I divide the potential energy/mol by 6.02*1023 I can find the potential energy/atom, but I still have only one equation with both of the parametres to determine.
I have to find another equation with one or both paramentres, but I don't know where to find it.

All sugestions are appreciated.
Thank you very much.
The neighbouring atoms are arranged at such distance from each other where the L-J potential is minimum. Find the derivative of Φ and make it equal to zero: this gives you an additional equation.
 
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Thank you so very much! It's a brilliant idea.
 

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