How Can I Improve a Latching Mechanism for an Aircraft Seat Armrest?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a latching mechanism for an aircraft seat armrest, focusing on a remote latch principle. Participants explore various mechanical designs and approaches to translate a downward force into horizontal motion to actuate the latch, while considering constraints such as space limitations and the need for simplicity in the mechanism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • James describes the task of designing a latching mechanism and seeks guidance on how to proceed, emphasizing his lack of experience in mechanism design.
  • Some participants suggest using online image hosting to share sketches for better feedback.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of sharing company designs on a public forum.
  • One participant proposes that a bell-crank mechanism could be suitable, but also notes potential resistance issues that might necessitate a pull rather than push action.
  • James clarifies that he is starting from scratch without an existing design and seeks advice on translating vertical motion to horizontal motion.
  • Another participant suggests a simpler design involving a button mounted on a stem that uses a nylon wedge to actuate a horizontal follower plate.
  • Further simplifications are proposed, including the possibility of angling the button for more direct actuation of the tie rods.
  • Discussion includes considerations of the button's placement and its impact on the mechanism's design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best approach to the design, with no consensus reached on a single solution. Multiple competing ideas and mechanisms are presented, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations such as the height restriction of the mechanism, which must fit within a 0.90" space, and the need for the design to be simple and effective given the application context.

Who May Find This Useful

Engineers and designers interested in mechanical design, particularly in aerospace applications, may find the discussion relevant for insights into latching mechanisms and design considerations in constrained spaces.

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Hi guys,
I've been dropped in at the deep end at work, tasked with designing a latching mechanism for an armrest on a luxury aircraft seat - It has to work on a remote latch principle, ie by pushing a sprung-loaded button downwards to actuate a link arm via a pivot, which then retracts the remote (actron) latch from its striker, enabling the armrest to be opened/rotated on its hinge.

I have some pretty good sketches of the parts of the mechanism as I see it, however I need someone to have a look over it & give me their guidance on how I should proceed. I'm not a mechanism designer - I normally don't get concept design work, but I want to rise to the challenge & produce something which works well.

I can send loads of scanned sketches via email if anyone feels they would like to help me out here - I would appreciate some guidance. Thanks in advance. James
 
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Welcome to PF, James.
I doubt that anyone is willing to give out their e-mail address, but you can post the pictures here by using Image Shack or a similar service. It would definitely help people to think up solutions.
 
Hi,

OK thanks for the good advice, I will get my sketches scanned & put them online.

Cheers,

James
 
I think you should check with your boss before publishing your company's designs. I doubt the principals would appreciate the implicit statement that their design reviews are conducted by soliciting comments on an Internet forum.
 
That's a good point, Mapes. I never think of things like that when answering.
The principals might, however, appreciate that this isn't just any old internet site. It's pretty much the most prestigious science forum in the world, with world-class engineers, physicists, mathematicians and biologists available. Although some bad advice will probably be given, people who know better will shoot that down immediately. Something as inherently simple as an armrest can potentially make the difference between life and death in an aeroplane accident. No one here will ever take that lightly.
I can come up with a basic mechanism, but there are structural and aerospace engineers who will most assuredly analyze the situation and point out any flaws.
 
Do you have an existing seat design with movable arm rests? Does it have a local latch? If it already has a local latch that has passed acceptance testing, and and the issue is to change to remote release, you will likely find people more will to offer suggestions.
 
Hi all,
Thanks for the constructive points so far. Just to clarify - it is not my intention to go into huge detail or expose confidential design material, I merely need some assistance in the process of constructing a basic mechanism. Pointers / help, that's all.

I have a blank sheet of paper - no existing design. I have designed a bezel & button which sit on top of a leather covered armrest, the passenger pushes down on the button from the top (max 30N force to actuate) & I need advice on translating the vertical motion to horizontal motion to actuate a remote latch. I am thinking of using a cam / rod arrangement maybe. I can define basic dimensions - if anyone could give me some pointers on how I should start defining the mech I would be grateful.

I'm just starting out in my engineering career - we all have to start somewhere. Thanks for any advice you can offer.

James
 
Sounds like a simple bell-crank should do it. If there's any significant resistance to be met, such as 'torque-lock', I'd recommend that it be set to pull, rather than push, the latch. That would eliminate flexing of the tie-rod.
 
Danger, thanks for the reply. I had been thinking along those lines also. I'm working on some basic sketches & will upload them to webspace tomorrow (Sat), I need to get this figured out over the coming weekend so I know where I am going next week. Its getting there! Cheers for the advice so far.
 
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Well, I'll be around for a while. Keep in mind that I have no formal education, so if anyone disagrees with my advice, you should listen to them.
 
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Hi all,

Here are some basic sketches of the button / latch positions I have to work with. I have uploaded them to auctionpix.com webspace for ease of viewing.

Application 1 arrangement...
http://auctionpix.co.uk/users/kvq1336679.jpg

Application 2 arrangement...
http://auctionpix.co.uk/users/vap1336680.jpg

My initial thoughts on a bell crank...
http://auctionpix.co.uk/users/chw1336681.jpg

Scenario - I have to translate a 30N downward force into horizontal motion to retract 2 x remote latches. I envisage a bell crank with tie rods, working in tension to pull back the latch bolts by 0.30". The button has around the same distance to depress in its housing.

I have two arrangements to design for - the latch / button relationships are different between the two.

I am looking for help / advice on defining the mechanism. How do I make this thing work! Any help / advice very gratefully received. James
 
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PS - I forgot to mention (although it is a small note on one of my sketches!) the whole mech has to be encapsulated within a 0.90" height due to being housed within the armrest. J
 
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Hi again.
After seeing the sketches, and learning of the encapsulation size restriction, I've changed my mind. I think that a bell-crank link is overly complicated for this application.
It would be simpler to just mount your button on a sturdy 'stem' (think rectangular mushroom) that extends through a pilot bushing with a nylon wedge on the bottom. That could then be used to cam a horizontal follower plate back to pull the tie rods. You'd just need a couple of guide slots to keep the follower straight. One moderate compression spring around the stem would be enough to ensure button return.
 
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Danger, Thanks for the advice - I see the benefits, especially due to the height restriction - getting the bell crank packaged in such a small space was going to be a headache. Will keep you posted. Cheers again.
 
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Just got another idea for further simplification, but I don't know if it conforms to your requirements.
Does the depression of the button have to be straight downward? If not, you could just angle the button 'well' so that it slides backward as it goes down. Then you could connect the button stem directly to the tie rods.
 
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Thanks that's something I had not considered - will look into it. James
 
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To extrapolate even further, is there any particular reason that the button has to be on the top of the armrest? If not, putting it on the front would allow a straight rearward depression that could directly pull the tie rods.
 

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