How Can John's Mountain Trek Equation Simplify to 3x² + 16x - 80 = 0?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a mountain trek where John travels different distances at varying speeds. The original poster seeks assistance in forming and simplifying an equation that models the scenario, specifically aiming to derive the equation 3x² + 16x - 80 = 0.

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  • Participants discuss using the distance formula d = rt to set up equations based on John's trek. The original poster attempts to equate the time taken for both journeys and expresses difficulty in simplifying their equation to the desired form. Others inquire about the use of coefficients in the quadratic formula and clarify the importance of including signs.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on setting up equations and clarifying the use of the quadratic formula. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet, as various interpretations and methods are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their initial setup and simplification process.

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a route up a mountain is 20km
john followed this route at xkm/h
he came down a different route
the length of the route is 25km
his average speed coming down increase by 2km/h than his average speed going up
it took john 1.5 hours less to come down than to go up
write an equation in x and show it simplifies to

3x^2 + 16x - 80 = 0

i tried doing it, but i can't reduce it to this equation. can anyone help me

i basically did this

20/x - 1.5 = 25/x+2

it can't reduce to the above equation. please help me. thx
 
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Use [tex]d = rt[/tex]

So: [tex]20 = xt[/tex]

[tex]25 = (x+2)(t-1.5)[/tex]
 
thx so much. one more think i need to ask, if i put the conefficients into the quadratic formula, do i have to include the + - signs into it, or do i just use the numbers?
 
I am not sure I understand your question. You have to use the + and - in the quadratic formula.

[tex]x = \frac{-b\pm \sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}[/tex]
 
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if its 5x^2 + 16x - 50 = 0

and i sub it into the quadratic formula, do i just sub in the coefficients only, or do i have to include the signs.


for my first question i tried it, but i ended up having

8x + 1.5x -40 = 0
i don't know i i did wrong:frown: :frown: :frown:
 
If [tex]5x^{2} + 16x - 50 = 0[/tex] then

[tex]x = \frac{-16\pm \sqrt{16^{2}-4(5)(-50)}}{10}[/tex]
 
okay thanks for ur help
 
The signs are part of the coefficients!
 

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