How can the 2nd Order Elliptic Equation be solved for exact solutions?

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The discussion revolves around finding exact solutions to the second order elliptic equation given by d²y/dx² = C/y, where C is a constant. Participants explore various methods of solving this equation, including power series and transformations to first order equations, while expressing their challenges and uncertainties in achieving a closed-form solution.

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  • One participant expresses interest in solving the equation and has derived a power series expansion using Taylor's theorem, but seeks further insights on exact solutions or other approximations.
  • Another participant suggests a transformation by letting v = dy/dx, leading to an integration approach for v(y), but notes that finding y in closed form may not be feasible.
  • A third participant introduces a method to eliminate the independent variable x, transforming the second order equation into a first order equation, which they claim can be integrated to find y' in terms of y.
  • The initial poster acknowledges the complexity of the problem and expresses gratitude for the suggestions, indicating that they still find the task challenging.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a definitive method for solving the equation, as multiple approaches are discussed, and challenges remain in finding a closed-form solution.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of the equation and the potential limitations of the proposed methods, including the difficulty in achieving a closed-form solution and the reliance on specific transformations and integrations.

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Readers interested in differential equations, mathematical physics, and methods for solving second order elliptic equations may find the discussion relevant.

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I've been searching for exact solution of d2y/dx2 = C/y, where C is some constant, such equation take place when deriving equation of motion in gravitationnal field, I'm more interested in how to solve it, yet I only managed to express it as power series using taylor's theorem at x = 0, just pick y(0) = c1, y'(0) = c2, so y''= C/c1, y'''(x) = C*c2/c12 and so on, until y ≈ c1 + c2*x + C/2c1 * x2+ C*c2/6c12 *x3 + ..., Is there's any special function that solves the equation or any other approximisation ?, I want to hear some thoughts !,
 
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If we let ##v = dy/dx##, then

$$\frac{C}{y} = \frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = \frac{dv}{dx} = \frac{dy}{dx} \frac{dv}{dy} = v \frac{dv}{dy}.$$

We can integrate this for ##v(y)## (it's the square root of log). Solving ##v = dy/dx## for ##y## in closed form is probably not possible.
 
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There is a trick for solving second order equations of this type, where the independent variable x is missing. Using the notation y' = dy/dx, write d2y/dx2 as follows:
[tex]\frac{d^2 y}{dx^2} = \frac{dy'}{dx} = \frac{dy'}{dy} \frac{dy}{dx} = y' \frac{dy'}{dy}[/tex]

Now you have eliminated x from the equation and turned it into a first order equation in y and y'. For your equation:

[tex]y' \frac{dy'}{dy} = \frac{C}{y}[/tex]

or:

[tex]y' dy'= \frac{C}{y} dy[/tex]

Now you can integrate both sides, and solve for y' in terms of y. Then you replace y' with dy/dx and integrate a second time. So you should be able to solve your equation analytically without needing power series.
 
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Thanks for quick replies, as far as I tried this seems "Damn" hard to solve but can get other approximisation from it , thanks :p
 

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