How Can the Spring Equation for a Chain of Springs be Solved?

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The discussion revolves around solving the spring equation for a chain of springs, specifically focusing on the dynamics described by Newton's second law and the resulting ordinary differential equations (ODEs). Participants explore methods of integration and Fourier transforms to derive solutions for the displacement of masses in the chain.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation of motion for a chain of springs and derives an ODE related to the displacement of the kth mass.
  • Another participant attempts to solve the ODE through direct integration but encounters difficulties, expressing uncertainty about the next steps.
  • A different participant explores the use of Fourier transforms to solve the problem but is unsure about the implementation of an implicit function in their approach.
  • One participant questions the formulation of the ODE, suggesting a potential discrepancy in the variables used in the equation.
  • A query is raised regarding the equations governing a system with two springs, highlighting the challenge of relating multiple displacements with fewer equations.

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Participants express differing views on the formulation of the equations and the methods for solving them. There is no consensus on the correct approach or solution, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to proceed.

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Participants have not fully clarified assumptions regarding the tension force T or the boundary conditions for the system. The discussion also lacks resolution on the implications of using different formulations of the ODE.

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There is a chain of springs, such that qk is the displacement of the kth mass in this chain.

We have the next equation of Newton second law, where T is the tension force:
[tex]\frac{d^2q_k}{dt^2}=T(q_{k+1}-q_k)-T(q_k-q_{k-1})[/tex]
Let Qk=qk+1-qk

I showed that if Q(t)k=Q(k-ct)=Q(s)

then we get the next ODE:
(1)[tex]c^2 Q''(s)=T(s+1)-2T(s)+T(s-1)[/tex]
I need to show that the solution is:
[tex]Q(s)=\int_{s-1}^{s+1} (1-|s-z|)T(z)dz[/tex]
by direct integration i.e integrating (1) or by Fourier transform.

I tried both but I get stuck, by direct integration I get:

[tex]c^2Q(s)= \int^{s} \int^{x} [T(z+1)-2T(z)+T(z-1)] dz dx[/tex]
don't know how to proceed from here, can anyone give a helping hand? (-:
 
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I also tried the Fourier transform I got to:
[tex]Q(s)=FT(FT^-1(T(s))*\frac{sin^2(w/2)}{(w/2)^2})[/tex]

I tried mathematica to solve this, but I am not sure how to write it with an implicit function as FT^-1(T(s)).
 
I wonder about equation (1). Since:

[tex]\frac{d^2Q_k}{\text{dt}^2}=T\left(Q_{k+1}\right)-2T\left(Q_k\right)+T\left(Q_{k-1}\right)[/tex]

So, we have:

[tex]c^2 Q''(s)=T(Q(s+1))-2T(Q(s))+T(Q(s-1))[/tex]

instead of

[tex]c^2 Q''(s)=T(s+1)-2T(s)+T(s-1)[/tex]

Please clarify.
 
What are the equations if you have k = 2 springs? Using your equations you would have displacements q0, q1, q2, and q3 involving 4 displacements and only two equations.
 

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