How can we add Angular Momenta in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the addition of angular momenta in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing the mathematical formulation and assumptions behind this process. Participants explore the implications of different mathematical spaces and the nature of the operators involved.

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  • One participant questions the validity of the addition of angular momentum operators as presented in a referenced equation, seeking clarification on the assumptions involved.
  • Another participant suggests that angular momenta can be added component-wise, proposing a straightforward approach to the problem.
  • Some participants argue that the addition of operators must consider the spaces they belong to, indicating that they act on different subspaces.
  • A clarification is made that the addition of angular momenta is not a direct sum but rather a direct product, with specific operators represented in tensor product form.
  • Discussion includes a focus on the commutation relations of the angular momentum components, with a specific example provided for the x and y components.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the addition of angular momenta, with some supporting the component-wise addition and others emphasizing the need for a more nuanced approach involving the mathematical spaces of the operators. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct interpretation of the addition process.

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Participants note the importance of distinguishing between direct sums and direct products in the context of angular momentum operators, highlighting potential misunderstandings in the operations involved.

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Hey!

While I was reading some book in Quantum Mechanics, I ran across the following, and couldn't
know how can this be true or actually how was it assumed.

How by adding equation (7.91)and (7.92), we get (7.110), see attachment.
 

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Well isn't
[tex] \vec{J}=\vec{J}_1+\vec{J}_2[/tex]?
Then you can work component by component and obtain the result.
 
Yes, but this is not the 'real' addition, each of the operators you've listed belong to different spaces..
 
M. next said:
Yes, but this is not the 'real' addition, each of the operators you've listed belong to different spaces..

But [itex]\vec{J}[/itex] may be defined in this way on the space defined as the direct sum of the spaces where 1 and 2 act, or not?
 
Please read carefully what's written in the attachment.
 

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But J may be defined in this way on the space defined as the direct sum of the spaces where 1 and 2 act, or not?
They do act on different subspaces. But actually it's not the direct sum, it's the direct product. To be technical about it, J1 is really J1 ⊗ I, and J2 is really I ⊗ J2, and J = J1 + J2 = J1 ⊗ J2.

Now if you focus on two of the components, say x and y components, and look at their commutator,

[Jx, Jy] = [J1x, J1y] ⊗ [J2x, J2y] = i J1z ⊗ J2z = i Jz
 
Bill_K said:
They do act on different subspaces. But actually it's not the direct sum, it's the direct product. To be technical about it, J1 is really J1 ⊗ I, and J2 is really I ⊗ J2, and J = J1 + J2 = J1 ⊗ J2.

Now if you focus on two of the components, say x and y components, and look at their commutator,

[Jx, Jy] = [J1x, J1y] ⊗ [J2x, J2y] = i J1z ⊗ J2z = i Jz

Yes, the direct product, I messed up my operations.
 
Thanks! This was helpful.
 

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