How Can You Determine the Right Ascension of a Star with a Meridian Circle?

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The discussion centers around the methods for determining the right ascension (R.A.) of a star using a meridian circle, including the Horrebow-Talcott method for latitude determination and the potential use of the Sun's transit as a reference. The scope includes theoretical and practical aspects of astronomical measurement.

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Main Points Raised

  • Jeff describes a method for determining the right ascension of a star by measuring the transit times of a reference star and a second star, proposing that the difference in transit times can be used to calculate the R.A. of the second star.
  • Jeff questions whether the transits of the Sun can be used as a reference for determining R.A. near the equinox, suggesting that the Sun's R.A. is known during this time.
  • Jeff mentions the Flamsteed method for determining absolute R.A. but notes a lack of accessible documentation on the topic.
  • Other participants express uncertainty about the specificity of Jeff's questions, indicating that they may not be widely known or understood.

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The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the methods proposed or the feasibility of using the Sun as a reference for determining right ascension.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided detailed explanations or validations of the methods mentioned, and there is a lack of clarity regarding the availability of resources on the Flamsteed method.

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Hi,

With a meridian circle, you can determine the latitude of your location (Horrebow-Talcott method) but also deriving time if you know the right ascension of a star.
However, I'd like to know how to determine right ascension of a star with a meridian circle.

If you know the right ascension of a reference star, you measure its transit time. Then, you measure the transit time of the second star (the star you want to know the right ascension) and then you add the difference of transit time to the right ascension of the reference star. So, you obtain the right ascension of the second star since \alpha = T when H=0 (at transit).

How to derive right ascension of a star when you have no other star with known R.A ? Can we use the transits of the Sun as a reference star since, near equinox, we can assume the Sun R.A to be known ?
I heard about the Flamsteed method to determine absolute R.A but I don't documents which explained it "quite easily".


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Jeff, you've asked a couple of very specific questions in this thread and some of your others that not many people will know. Don't be suprised if you don't get any hits.
 
Drakkith said:
Jeff, you've asked a couple of very specific questions in this thread and some of your others that not many people will know. Don't be suprised if you don't get any hits.

Ok, sorry.
 

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