High School How Can You Simplify the Cube Root of a Complex Expression?

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The discussion focuses on simplifying the expression $\sqrt[3]{1342\sqrt{167}+2005}$ into a form that only includes addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and square roots. Participants share their approaches and solutions, with several members successfully finding correct simplifications. Notable contributors include MarkFL, kaliprasad, soroban, and mente oscura, who all provide valid solutions to the problem. The thread emphasizes the importance of clear mathematical reasoning in tackling complex expressions. Ultimately, the goal is to express the cube root in a more manageable format.
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Represent the number $\sqrt[3]{1342\sqrt{167}+2005}$ in the form where it contains only addition, subtraction, multiplication, division and square roots.

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Re: Problem of the week #102 -March 10th, 2014

Congratulations to the following members for their correct solutions::)

1. MarkFL
2. kaliprasad
3. soroban
4. mente oscura

Solution from kaliprasad:

Because 167 is prime so the cube root shall be of the form $a + b\sqrt{167}$

Cube both sides and equate to cube of RHS to get

$a^3 + 3a^2b\sqrt {167} + 3a * 167 b^2 + 167 b^3 \sqrt {167} = 2005 + 1342 \sqrt {167}$

Equate the rational parts on both sides to get

$a^3 + 501 ab^2 = 2005$ ...(1)

Equate their rational parts on both sides to get

$3a^2 b + 167 b^3 = 1342$ ... (1)

First check for positive integers and we see that a = 1 and b =2 satisfy (1) and (2) and hence solution is

$1 + 2 \sqrt {167}$

Solution from mente oscura:

\sqrt[3]{1342 \sqrt{167}+2005}\sqrt[3]{1342 \sqrt{167}+2005}=\sqrt[3]{(a+b)^3}

a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3=1342 \sqrt{167}+2005

Let \ a=x \sqrt{167}

Therefore:

a^3+3ab^2=1342 \sqrt{167} \rightarrow{} 167x^3 \cancel{\sqrt{167}}+3x \cancel{\sqrt{167}} \ b^2=1342 \cancel{\sqrt{167}}

b=\sqrt{\dfrac{1342-167x^3}{3x}}

For \ x=2 \rightarrow{}b=1 \ and \ a=2 \sqrt{167}

Same:

3x^2 \ 167b+b^3=2005

For \ b=1 \rightarrow{} x=2

Solution:
\sqrt[3]{1342 \sqrt{167}+2005}=2 \sqrt{167}+1
 

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