How come there is a particle with zero mass?

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Photons are real particles that possess zero mass and no charge, functioning as packets of energy that transmit electromagnetic force. They interact with matter, despite their lack of mass, through energy and momentum transfer. The discussion emphasizes that while photons may not fit the everyday concept of particles, they are integral to quantum mechanics and the standard model of particle physics. Understanding massless particles requires a grasp of complex mathematical frameworks, as they exist within specific representations in quantum theory. Ultimately, photons are essential to our understanding of electromagnetic interactions and cannot be dismissed as mere theoretical constructs.
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How come there is a particle with zero mass??

My question is probably very lame, please excuse me

how come there is some particle that has no mass and no charge? (like photons) does such a particle really exist? or they are just "virtual" particles thought for better understading of some phenomenons?
 
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They aren't really particles in everyday terms - a photon is a lump of electro-magnetic fields.
 


VodaVoda said:
My question is probably very lame, please excuse me

how come there is some particle that has no mass and no charge? (like photons) does such a particle really exist? or they are just "virtual" particles thought for better understading of some phenomenons?

A photon does not have any mass and charge, indeed, but it is real.

A photon has energy and momentum to transfer/obtain, so it can interact. If you remember that a photon is an electromagnetic wave that appears in the electron equations of motion, you will have a clear picture of photon-electron interaction. This interaction is rather strong, so it cannot be neglected without getting in trouble (infrared catastrophe).

Bob.
 
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mgb_phys said:
They aren't really particles in everyday terms - a photon is a lump of electro-magnetic fields.
If a photon isn't a particle in everyday terms, then neither is an electron, or any of the other particles of the standard model. Particles are quantum systems with Hilbert spaces that are the representation spaces of irreducible projective representations of the Poincaré group (or representations of its covering group). Massless particles can exist because there are massless representations. Electrons can exist because there are massive spin 1/2 representations.

To the OP: I don't think there's any way to explain this in less mathematical language.

Actually, what I wrote is an oversimplification. That stuff only defines the mathematical description of non-interacting particles. There seems to be no end to how much you have to learn to really understand interacting particles.
 


photons are definitely real; if you're having trouble thinking of them as particles try thinking of them as packets of energy proportional to their wavelength which transmit the electromagnetic force
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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