How Did Early Navigators Use Time to Determine Their Location?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on how early navigators utilized time to determine their geographical location, particularly before the advent of modern technology like GPS. It explores the historical context of timekeeping and its implications for navigation at sea.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that local time can vary even over short distances, suggesting that there could be a time difference of half a second between two points just 100 feet apart.
  • Another participant acknowledges this variability but points out that timezones were created to simplify timekeeping, despite their inaccuracies.
  • A later reply discusses the historical context of local timekeeping, indicating that towns once had their own local times, which became problematic with faster transportation methods like railroads.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of accurate timekeeping for navigation at sea, explaining that early navigators would carry a known time and compare it to local time determined by celestial observations to ascertain their position.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the historical evolution of timekeeping and its impact on navigation, but there is no consensus on the implications of local time variations or the effectiveness of timezones.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on the limitations of timezones and local timekeeping, but does not resolve the complexities involved in accurately determining time and location at sea.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the history of navigation, timekeeping, or the evolution of transportation methods may find this discussion informative.

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So right now it is 11:28 pm local time. I live in central time zone, I know east coast is 1 hour ahead of me. But technically, won't 100 feet to the east and 100 feet to the west both have different times? Even if it is just a half a second difference?
 
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Yes. But since this is inconvenient for clocks, we artificially divided the world into timezones. Timezones aren't accurate, but they obviously serve their purpose well.
 
Thanks for the response, sorry for wasting a thread.
 
DeepSpace9 said:
Thanks for the response, sorry for wasting a thread.

You should like to know that at one time each town or city had its own local time. Not much of a problem for most of history, since people did not move around that much.

But as the modes of transportation became faster, such as with the advent of the railroad, things really got messed up with the schedules using that local system, and the cure was timezones.

Look into the history of time or something similar to that. It really is quite interesting read on the progression of measuring time from ancient history with sundials and water clocks to the present.
 
Okay I will do that, thanks.
 
256bits said:
Look into the history of time or something similar to that.

Also the history of finding how far east or west one had traveled by sea. Before the days of GPS that depended on exactly the effect you described - carry the time at a known place around with you (i.e. have an accurate clock), measure the local time by observing the sun or stars, and work out where you were from the difference between the two.
 

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