How did you decide on your career?

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The discussion revolves around participants sharing their experiences and decisions regarding their career paths, particularly in relation to their educational backgrounds in physics, engineering, and related fields. The scope includes personal anecdotes about undergraduate studies, transitions to postgraduate education, and the randomness of career choices.

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  • One participant expresses a desire to pursue a post-graduate degree in quantum mechanics but is uncertain about the best undergraduate path, questioning the relevance of their studies to future careers.
  • Another participant mentions not having graduated yet and is advised against early specialization, indicating uncertainty about their future direction.
  • A participant shares their journey through various engineering disciplines before settling on Physics/Mathematics, highlighting a lack of a clear career plan at the outset.
  • One individual reflects on their experience of bouncing around different fields and ultimately obtaining a PhD in physics, but now expresses dissatisfaction with their current postdoc position and regrets not considering engineering as a career option.
  • A participant discusses the randomness of their career path, emphasizing the importance of general skills and adaptability rather than a fixed plan.
  • Another participant uses a metaphor of a robot to describe their career trajectory as chaotic and directionless, yet ultimately successful.
  • One participant recounts a diverse career path that included engineering, soils science, and programming, emphasizing opportunistic job changes rather than a deliberate career decision.

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Participants generally share a sense of randomness and lack of a clear plan in their career paths, but there is no consensus on whether this approach is beneficial or detrimental. Multiple competing views on the importance of specialization and the relevance of undergraduate studies to future careers remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their career choices and the relevance of their educational backgrounds, indicating that their decisions were influenced by external circumstances rather than a structured plan. The discussion reflects a variety of personal experiences that may not be universally applicable.

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Individuals contemplating their career paths in STEM fields, particularly those considering the relationship between undergraduate studies and future opportunities, may find this discussion insightful.

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What are you in now and how did you end up there?

I really want to do a post-grad in quantum mechanics, and got a letter from my Uni this morning asking if I am doing a single honours degree in astrophysics or a double honours degree in physics and maths-physics.
Ideally I would do astrophysics and maths-physics but this isn't an option. So I was wondering how everyone here got to where they are now?

Was your undergraduate clearly relevant to your post-graduate?

Or did you leave straight after your undergraduate into your chosen career?

Or did you bounce around for a while first?

How did you make these sort of decisions?
 
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I haven't graduated yet but I was advised not to specialize early on. I still don't know what I want to do, I am currently toying with the idea of doing a phd.
 
I bounced around through a few engineering disciplines before finally deciding on Physics/Mathematics for my B.S.. I made that decision without giving a second thought to what I actually wanted to do for a living...I just knew I enjoyed physics and math and wanted to enjoy school and see where it took me.

When I was a junior I randomly stumbled upon a medical physics webpage and even more randomly made a contact within my University that was associated with our own medical physics program and the rest is history. Never looked back.
 
I bounced around among a few different things as an undergrad and eventually settled on physics. The I got a PhD in physics, and now I'm a postdoc. I hate it now, and I can't find another job. I never really considered trying engineering and now I feel that was a big mistake.
 
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What are you in now and how did you end up there?

There is a lot of randomness, and I didn't end up where I am as a result of some master plan. However, I did have general ideas about "what I want to do with my life" and I picked up a lot of general skills so that when I did see an opportunity I could take it.

Ideally I would do astrophysics and maths-physics but this isn't an option. So I was wondering how everyone here got to where they are now?

Honestly, I don't think it will matter much in the long run what you choose there. If it does matter it will be because of something totally random that you can't forsee (i.e. you take a class and meet your future spouse there).

Was your undergraduate clearly relevant to your post-graduate?

Yes, but (and this is a big caveat), most of my undergraduate education didn't take place in the classroom. People think of degrees as some sort of industrial process, and one thing that helped me a lot is that I had parents and teachers that taught me not to think of education in that way.

Or did you leave straight after your undergraduate into your chosen career?

I think I'm twice as old as you, and I still haven't figured out what my chosen career is.

Actually, that's not quite true. The career I really want is to be a starship captain (like Kirk), but since I was born a few centuries too early, I have to think of something else.

Or did you bounce around for a while first?

I bounced around, and I think I'm going to keep bouncing around until I die.

How did you make these sort of decisions?

A lot of times the decision is made for you. For example, in 2002, I was working for a major oil company, and I would have been happy to work there until I retired. However, at that point some one got the bright idea to close our office and move all our jobs overseas. I was offered a job at another office, but at that point I didn't trust the management so I jumped into something different.

I wouldn't be too surprised if something like that happened with my current job. It's all about people, and one thing that's good and bad about business is that by changing people things can change very, very quickly, either for good or for bad.
 
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Remember those little robots from the 80's? The ones that would walk along in a straight line until they ran into something (wall, chair, tiny bump in the ground) and then turn and randomly walk somewhere else?

Imagine that after years of doing this the robot gets tired of it and moves only in a straight line, grinding through everything in its path and leaving destruction and debris in its wake as it travels in a direction that seemingly has no rhyme or reason.

That’s me.

It’s worked out very well.
 
I started out in Engineering, then switched to pursue a double-major in English Lit and Philosophy. Quit school early to earn money, and ended up working as a soils scientist for a few years, then as a quality-control tech on a very large construction project, getting promoted up to asst superintendent and superintendent. I applied for a laborer's position at a pulp mill, and instead got hired as a process chemist, then went on to be the lead operator on the world's largest, fastest on-line coated fine-paper machine. I went on to pursue self-employment as a programmer, writing application software for small businesses, then got recruited to do training/engineering work for pulp and paper companies. Later went out on my own and spent several years doing the same kind of jobs (mostly involving boilers and T-G sets) until I found it medically debilitating to travel by plane (perfume chemicals cripple me). Then bounced around in a number of jobs including technical service/sales, IT, more sales, etc.

There is absolutely no way that I could ever claim to have "decided" on a career. I simply jumped to whatever job/task that offered a good chance to earn a lot of money. Also, I always made friends with players in each industry and kept myself open to options should my current job become untenable or less-than-optimal.

This kind of "strategy" is like cresting a drop onto a steep mogul-field. Maintain your poise and it's fun and exciting. If you freeze, you crash.
 

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