How do brids navigate during migration?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on how birds navigate during migration, exploring potential mechanisms such as magnetic sensing and solar positioning. It includes inquiries about the reasons for seasonal migration patterns and the ecological factors influencing these behaviors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how birds find their direction during migration and whether they possess a natural compass in their brains.
  • Another participant mentions a magnetic organ located near the base of the beak and suggests that birds can use the sun's position for navigation.
  • A different participant supports the idea of magnetic sensing, referencing specific research on thrush nightingales and noting that birds may also use the sun and stars as navigational aids.
  • A participant raises a related question about the necessity of migrating back north after wintering in the south, seeking to understand what resources are available in northern regions during summer.
  • In response, another participant explains that primary productivity is significantly higher in northern latitudes during summer, providing more food resources for young birds, and mentions a decrease in atmospheric CO2 during these months.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the mechanisms of navigation and the reasons for migration, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the specifics of these processes.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific research findings, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how birds integrate different navigational cues or the full ecological implications of their migratory patterns.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in avian biology, migration patterns, ecological dynamics, and navigation mechanisms may find this discussion relevant.

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How do brids find their directions during migration? Do they have any natural compass in their brain?
 
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I don't know too much about this, but they do have a magnetic organ which I believe is just above the base of the beak. There's also strong evidence that they can calculate things based upon the position of the sun.
 
birds do sense a magnetic field, e.g., thrush nightingales:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/11/1102_TVbirdflite.html
More general:
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF5/512.html

Research also cites a use of the sun and maybe stars as a secondary navigational aid.
 
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I guess this question is related, so I can understand why birds would migrate south, but then why do they have to migrate back up north again? What is not down south in the European Summer that is there in the European winter in other words?
 
Primary productivity in more Northern latitudes during summer is very high compared to the tropics - ie., more bugs, fish, and seeds for baby birds. Photosynthesis increases so much that there is a dip in atmospheric [itex]CO_2[/tex] during the summer months.[/itex]
 

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