How Do I Balance This Redox Reaction Using Redox Number or Half Equation Method?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around balancing a redox reaction involving sodium sulfide (Na2S), silver (Ag), nitric acid (HNO3), and sodium chromate (Na2CrO4) to produce silver sulfide (Ag2S), chromium(III) nitrate (Cr(NO3)3), and sodium nitrate (NaNO3). Participants explore methods for balancing the reaction, specifically the redox number method and the half equation method, while addressing challenges and clarifications needed in the process.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in balancing the reaction and expresses confusion about needing to add AgNO3 as a product.
  • Another participant points out that the reaction cannot be balanced as written due to the absence of hydrogen on the right side and suggests adding water to the products.
  • Some participants discuss the roles of sulfide as a reducing agent and nitric acid as an oxidizing agent, questioning why they appear to be spectators in the reaction.
  • A participant shares their balanced net ionic equation and seeks help in converting it back to the original equation, expressing uncertainty about the need to double the coefficients.
  • Another participant explains that doubling the coefficients is necessary to ensure an even number of Ag+ ions for the formation of Ag2S and emphasizes that all coefficients must be modified simultaneously to maintain balance.
  • A participant questions the chemical reasoning behind having 3 Ag on one side and Ag2S along with an Ag+ ion on the other side, seeking clarification on this point.
  • One participant suggests that while having 3 Ag on the left and Ag2S with an Ag+ on the right wouldn't be completely incorrect, it lacks chemical sense.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the balancing methods and the necessity of certain products in the reaction. There is no consensus on the best approach to balance the reaction, and multiple competing views remain regarding the roles of the reactants and products.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for additional hydrogen in the products and the implications of modifying coefficients in redox equations. There are unresolved questions about the chemical reasoning behind certain balancing choices.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and educators involved in chemistry, particularly those studying redox reactions and balancing equations, may find this discussion relevant.

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Homework Statement


Can somebody help me balance this redox reaction using either the redox number method or the half equation method? Thank You

Na2S + Ag + HNO3 + Na2CrO4 ----> Ag2S + Cr(NO3)3 + NaNO3

Can you please explain your steps.

Thank You

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I tried using both methods, but I find that I have to add AgNO3 as a product to the right side. I've been told that I cannot do this, can someone explain why?
 
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It can't be balanced as entered, as there is no hydrogen on the right, you need to add water to products.

There is no need for AgNO3 on the RHS.

Have you recognized what is being oxidized and what is being reduced?

Chemically it doesn't make sense to me - sulfide is a reducing agent, nitric acid is an oxidizing agent, I don't see why they are just spectators.
 
Borek said:
It can't be balanced as entered, as there is no hydrogen on the right, you need to add water to products.

There is no need for AgNO3 on the RHS.

Have you recognized what is being oxidized and what is being reduced?

Chemically it doesn't make sense to me - sulfide is a reducing agent, nitric acid is an oxidizing agent, I don't see why they are just spectators.

Yes, our instructor taught us to add in water as a product while doing the solution.

This is what I get for my balanced net ionic equation, but I do not know what to do from there. Can someone help me put this back into the original equation:

8 H+ + CrO42- + 3 Ag ---> 3 Ag+ + Cr3+ + 4 H2O

I was told that I had to double the above, for the original equation to balance. I do not know why, and I am not sure how to do it either.
 
Gorby said:
8 H+ + CrO42- + 3 Ag ---> 3 Ag+ + Cr3+ + 4 H2O

Thats OK.

I was told that I had to double the above, for the original equation to balance. I do not know why, and I am not sure how to do it either.

You need an even number of Ag+ for Ag2S.

Simply multiply all coefficients by 2, add on the left enough S2- to convert all Ag+ on RHS to Ag2S, see how many Na+ you are missing and so on. One thing you can't do - you can't modify coefficients of the above redox equation separately, if you need to modify them, you have to modify all at the same time (this way redox skeleton stays always balanced).
 
Borek said:
Thats OK.
You need an even number of Ag+ for Ag2S.

Simply multiply all coefficients by 2, add on the left enough S2- to convert all Ag+ on RHS to Ag2S, see how many Na+ you are missing and so on. One thing you can't do - you can't modify coefficients of the above redox equation separately, if you need to modify them, you have to modify all at the same time (this way redox skeleton stays always balanced).

I see, that makes sense. I am wondering why it is not ok to have 3 Ag on the left side and then have Ag2S along with an Ag+ ion by itself on the right side; so that there are 3 Ag on both sides.
 
It wouldn't be completely incorrect, just doesn't make much chemical sense.
 

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