How do I factor this trinomial

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The discussion revolves around factoring the trinomial 2(x)^3 + 3(x)^2 - 1. Participants explore various methods and approaches to factor this polynomial expression.

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  • Some participants suggest using synthetic division and the rational roots theorem as potential methods for finding factors. Others question the validity of certain roots and the process of polynomial long division.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and corrections. There is a recognition of different methods being explored, including trial and error with potential roots and graphical approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the long division process and the importance of including all terms in the polynomial.

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There are mentions of confusion regarding the division process and the inclusion of terms like 0x in the polynomial. Participants also express uncertainty about the implications of remainders in relation to factors.

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So I can't find an example in my book that shows how to factor a trinomial like this one:

2(x)^3 + 3(x)^2 - 1

I tried finding a number that multiplied to -2 and added to 3, but that didn't work. I then tried just factoring x out of the equation, but I didn't know what to do with the -1 that was left over.

Is there another method? Thanks
 
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Have you tried synthetic division?
 
priceofcarrot said:
So I can't find an example in my book that shows how to factor a trinomial like this one:

2(x)^3 + 3(x)^2 - 1

I tried finding a number that multiplied to -2 and added to 3, but that didn't work. I then tried just factoring x out of the equation, but I didn't know what to do with the -1 that was left over.

Is there another method? Thanks

Do you know the rational roots theorem?
 
How about the remainder theorem?

Maybe try graphing it.
 
The rational roots theorem that LCKurtz mentioned is good. Or just "try" simple numbers are roots, or graphing it as SammyS suggested. Those are all ways of finding roots. And the "remainder theorem" that SammyS also suggested says that if x= a satisfies makes a polynomial equal to 0, then x- a is a factor. And could then use "synthetic division" as CAF123 suggested to find another factor.
 
I tried doing the find a value of x that makes the polynomial equal 0, and I got 0.5 by trial and error, but when I then went to divide the trinomial in the original post by x - 0.5, I got a remainder. Doesn't that mean that x - 0.5 isn't a factor of the trinomial?

But how is that possible if x-0.5 makes the trinomial equal 0? Did I make a mistake in my division?

Thanks
 
priceofcarrot said:
I tried doing the find a value of x that makes the polynomial equal 0, and I got 0.5 by trial and error, but when I then went to divide the trinomial in the original post by x - 0.5, I got a remainder. Doesn't that mean that x - 0.5 isn't a factor of the trinomial?

But how is that possible if x-0.5 makes the trinomial equal 0? Did I make a mistake in my division?

Thanks

Yes. Try again. And use ##1/2## instead of .5, maybe that will help your arithmetic. Or show us your work.
 
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And you left out the ##0x## term in the dividend. If you have trouble with long division, why don't you just try plugging ##x=1/2## into the equation and see if it works?
 
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I put 0.5 in the original trinomial, and it equalled 0. But the question wants me to completely factor it. Doesn't that mean I need to use another tool to get the 2nd factor?
 
  • #12
Just try doing the long division again and you'll get a quadratic that you can factor; no need for any other tool to get the other factors.
 
  • #13
SammyS said:
The result of your first addition (subtraction) is incorrect.

What is 2x3 + 4x2 - 1 - (2x3 - x2) ?

Or after changing subtraction to addition,

what is 2x3 + 4x2 - 1 - 2x3 + x2 ?

(Edited to fix a typo !)
The first one is 3x^2 - 1, and the second is 5x^2 - 1.

I just did the long division again, and this time I got a remainder of -1 + 2x. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I've successfully done long division of polynomials before this. I also read all the posts in this topic. Although I don't understand why I should include 0x in the dividend. Isn't that always 0?
 
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priceofcarrot said:
The first one is 3x^2 - 1, and the second is 5x^2 - 1.

I just did the long division again, and this time I got a remainder of -1 + 2x. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I've successfully done long division of polynomials before this. I also read all the posts in this topic. Although I don't understand why I should include 0x in the dividend. Isn't that always 0?
No matter whether you take
2x3 + 4x2 - 1 - (2x3 - x2)​
or
2x3 + 4x2 - 1 - 2x3 + x2
the result is the same:
5x2 -1 .​

Now, divide (5x2 -1) by (x - 1/2) .
 
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SammyS said:
No matter whether you take
2x3 + 4x2 - 1 - (2x3 - x2)​
or
2x3 + 4x2 - 1 - 2x3 + x2
the result is the same:
5x2 -1 .​

Now, divide (5x2 -1) by (x - 1/2) .

Corrections in red below:

No matter whether you take
2x3 + 3x2 - 1 - (2x3 - x2)​
or
2x3 + 3x2 - 1 - 2x3 + x2
the result is the same:
4x2 -1 .​

Now, divide (4x2 -1) by (x - 1/2) .
 
  • #16
priceofcarrot said:
The first one is 3x^2 - 1, and the second is 5x^2 - 1.

I just did the long division again, and this time I got a remainder of -1 + 2x. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I've successfully done long division of polynomials before this. I also read all the posts in this topic. Although I don't understand why I should include 0x in the dividend. Isn't that always 0?
You just didn't finish. You can still divide 2x-1 by x-1/2. You keep going until the degree of the remainder is less than the degree of the divisor.
 
  • #17
Why don't you try a negative root, -1 for example?

ehild
 
  • #18
vela said:
You just didn't finish. You can still divide 2x-1 by x-1/2. You keep going until the degree of the remainder is less than the degree of the divisor.
Thanks a lot for this post. I finally got it to work. I ended up using -1 though after ehild raised it as a possibility. I see that it would have worked with 0.5 too though.
I also corrected the mistake I made in my original work.

Thanks a lot guys!
 
  • #19
Now, that the problem has been solved by the OP, I can show an other way of factoring the expression.
2x3+3x2-1=(2x3+2x2)+(x2-1)=2x2(x+1)+(x+1)(x-1)=(x+1)(2x2+x-1)=(x+1)(x+1)(2x-1)

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Now, that the problem has been solved by the OP, I can show an other way of factoring the expression.
2x3+3x2-1=(2x3+2x2)+(x2-1)=2x2(x+1)+(x+1)(x-1)=(x+1)(2x2+x-1)=(x+1)(x+1)(2x-1)

ehild
Nice !
 

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