How Do Spin-0 and Spin-1 Propagators Differ in Quantum Field Theory?

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The discussion centers on the differences between spin-0 and spin-1 propagators in quantum field theory (QFT), exploring their mathematical forms, interpretations, and implications in the context of Green's functions. Participants delve into the technical aspects of these propagators, including their representations in momentum and coordinate space, as well as the significance of Lorentz indices.

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  • One participant describes the spin-0 propagator and its characteristics, noting the blow-up around the mass-shell and its representation as a bilocal function over spacetime.
  • Another participant explains that the indices of the spin-1 propagator will be contracted at interaction vertices, using the example of photon propagation in electron-positron annihilation.
  • A participant points out the difference in representation between the spin-0 and spin-1 propagators, emphasizing the need for Lorentz invariance in the spin-1 case due to its tensor nature.
  • One contribution discusses the derivation of the spin-1 propagator from the Proca Lagrangian, highlighting the role of the equations of motion and the constraints on the degrees of freedom for a massive spin-1 field.
  • A participant raises a caution regarding the Fourier integral for the spin-0 propagator, noting that it is undefined without a prescription for circumventing the poles in the complex plane, which can lead to different propagators based on the physical context.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the propagators, with some clarifying points for others. However, there is no consensus on all aspects of the discussion, particularly regarding the implications of the tensor structure and the treatment of the propagators in different contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of understanding the representations of propagators and the implications of Lorentz invariance, as well as the necessity of specific prescriptions for integrals in QFT. These points highlight the complexity and nuances involved in the discussion.

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Hello!
I have worked with Green's functions in electrodynamics and have now started reading qft.
First I encountered the spin-0 propagator,
[tex]D(x-y) = \int \frac{d^4 k}{(2\pi)^4}\frac{e^{ik(x-y)}}{k^2 -m^2}.[/tex]
This seems not so new.. We ahve a blow up around the mass-shell and the wave propagates through spacetime as a planewave. Our Greenfunction is a bilocal function over spacetime.

Now the problem is the spin-1 field:
[tex]D_{\nu \lambda} = \frac{-g_{\nu \lambda} + k_\nu k_\lambda /m^2}{k^2 - m^2}.[/tex]
Here the function is not dependent on which spacetime points the emission and absorption take places (right?). How should I interpret the lorentz indices? (What does the tensor ''eat'' and what does it ''spit out''?)

Thanks in advance!
 
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I'm not quite sure I understand the question.

The propagator indices will be contracted at one of the vertices. So for example, if my propagator is a photon in e+e- to q qbar I will have a gamma_nu at one point in space.

I.e the e+e- annihilation vertice.

Then photon propagates to the next space time point gamma_mu (where the q qbar is created).

The photon propagator contracts with one of these space points so I end up with the connected piece. Which now is something with gamma_nu gamma^nu. Which fully contracts.

A similar thing happens if I have a fermion propagator (instead of spin 1), in this case the space time vertices are contracted with 2 photon external lines.

I hope this is partially useful!
 
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Kontilera said:
Hello!
I have worked with Green's functions in electrodynamics and have now started reading qft.
First I encountered the spin-0 propagator,
[tex]D(x-y) = \int \frac{d^4 k}{(2\pi)^4}\frac{e^{ik(x-y)}}{k^2 -m^2}.[/tex]
This seems not so new.. We ahve a blow up around the mass-shell and the wave propagates through spacetime as a planewave. Our Greenfunction is a bilocal function over spacetime.

Now the problem is the spin-1 field:
[tex]D_{\nu \lambda} = \frac{-g_{\nu \lambda} + k_\nu k_\lambda /m^2}{k^2 - m^2}.[/tex]
Here the function is not dependent on which spacetime points the emission and absorption take places (right?). How should I interpret the lorentz indices? (What does the tensor ''eat'' and what does it ''spit out''?)

Thanks in advance!

You've written the first Green function in the spatial representation, whereas the 2nd one is written in the momentum space representation. These representations are Fourier transforms of one another, as you should be able to work out from the relationship between the representations of the fields, i.e., for a scalar

$$ \phi(x) = \int \frac{d^4 k}{(2\pi)^4}e^{ikx} \phi(k),$$

where the factors of ##2\pi## and the sign in the exponent are some conventions that you might want to check with your textbook. Then the relationship between the different representations of propagator is obtained by defining the propagator in an appropriate way in terms of ##\langle 0 | [\phi(x),\phi(y)]|0\rangle##. There is a discussion on wikipedia and no doubt somewhere in your text.

In momentum space, the scalar Green function is

$$ D(k) = \frac{1}{k^2 -m^2},$$

while the spatial representation of the spin 1 propagator will come out to be something like

$$D_{\nu \lambda}(x-y) = \int \frac{d^4 k}{(2\pi)^4}e^{ik(x-y)}\frac{-g_{\nu \lambda} + k_\nu k_\lambda /m^2}{k^2 - m^2}.$$
 
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There are many equivalent ways to derive the propagators, each with its own way of illuminating why they take the form they have. Since you mentioned being familiar with propagators from classical EM, it might be easiest to understand the propagator simply as the Green's function of the equation of motion. From the Proca lagrangian

$$ \mathcal{L} = - \frac{1}{4}F_{\mu \nu}F^{\mu \nu} + \frac{1}{2} m^2 A_{\mu}A^{\mu} $$

we find the equation of motion from Euler-Lagrange:

$$ \left[ (\partial^2 + m^2) g_{\mu \nu} - \partial_{\mu} \partial_{\nu} \right] A^{\mu} = 0 $$

so the Green's function must satisfy

$$ \left[ (\partial^2 + m^2) g_{\mu \nu} - \partial_{\mu} \partial_{\nu} \right] D^{\nu \rho}(x - y) = \delta_{\mu}^{\rho} \delta^3(x - y). $$

This is essentially where the tensor structure comes in. The dynamics are diagonalized by defining the Fourier transform of D in the usual way

$$ \left[ (- k^2 + m^2) g_{\mu \nu} + k_{\mu} k_{\nu} \right] D^{\nu \rho}(k) = \delta_{\mu}^{\rho}. $$

The propagator you gave in the OP is the solution to this equation. Physically, the reason for the nontrivial tensor structure is that the spin-1 vector field is constrained by its representation in the Lorentz group. The equations of motion I gave above imply that each component satisfies the Klein-Gordon equation [itex](\partial^2+m^2)A^{\mu} = 0[/itex], but we could just stick four scalar fields on top of each other and they would also satisfy this constraint. A (massive) spin-1 field actually has only 3 degrees of freedom, so we need to project a degree of freedom out. This is done by the equations of motion above, which also imply [itex]\partial_{\mu}A^{\mu} = 0[/itex].
 
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One should, however, emphasize that the Fourier integral in #1 is undefined. It is utmost important to be aware that this integral only makes sense as soon as a prescription of how to circumwent the poles of the propagator in the complex [itex]p^0[/itex] is given. The various possibilities to run around the poles leads to different propagators, and only the physics application you are considering can tell you which propagator you need. E.g., for vacuum-QFT perturbation theory you need the time-ordered propagator (which in the vacuum is identical with the Feynman propagator). There you get the correct prescription by adding an infinitesimal part in the denominator:
[tex]D(p)=\frac{1}{p^2-m^2+\mathrm{i} 0^+}.[/tex]
This tells you, which pole is inside the contour you get by closing the integration path in either the upper or lower [itex]p^0[/itex] half-plane for [itex]t_x-t_y<0[/itex] or [itex]t_x-t_y>0[/itex] respectively when the usual sign convention of the Fourier transform is chosen, i.e.,
[tex]D(x-y)=\int_{\mathbb{R}^4} \frac{\mathrm{d}^4 p}{(2 \pi)^4} \frac{\exp[-\mathrm{i} p \cdot(x-y)]}{p^2-m^2+\mathrm{i} 0^+}.[/tex]
I used the "west-coast convention" of the metrix [itex]\eta_{\mu \nu}=\mathrm{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1)[/itex].
 
Kontilera said:
Hello!
I have worked with Green's functions in electrodynamics and have now started reading qft.
First I encountered the spin-0 propagator,
[tex]D(x-y) = \int \frac{d^4 k}{(2\pi)^4}\frac{e^{ik(x-y)}}{k^2 -m^2}.[/tex]
This seems not so new.. We ahve a blow up around the mass-shell and the wave propagates through spacetime as a planewave. Our Greenfunction is a bilocal function over spacetime.

Now the problem is the spin-1 field:
[tex]D_{\nu \lambda} = \frac{-g_{\nu \lambda} + k_\nu k_\lambda /m^2}{k^2 - m^2}.[/tex]
Here the function is not dependent on which spacetime points the emission and absorption take places (right?). How should I interpret the lorentz indices? (What does the tensor ''eat'' and what does it ''spit out''?)
As others have pointed out,that your first propagator is in coordinate representation and second one is in momentum space.By the way,no indices on spin 0 green function represents it's scalar nature.The vertex for the diagram does not contain any index.While with spin 1 the two vertex which will be joined by that boson line will have index ,the propagator between these two points must come up with two indices in order for whole matrix element to be lorentz invariant(in very simple case).It does not matter who is emitting that boson and who is absorbing.It is already taken care when one writes the two point green function.
 
Thanks guys! This reallly helped.
 

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