How Do Spiral Galaxies Maintain Their Shape?

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The discussion revolves around the maintenance of the shape of spiral galaxies, particularly focusing on the concept of spiral density waves and their implications. Participants explore theoretical explanations and seek clarification on the mechanisms involved in this phenomenon.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a video discussing the winding paradox of spiral galaxies and questions the role of density waves in maintaining their shape.
  • Another participant confirms that the concept of density waves is unrelated to quantum mechanics but admits limited knowledge beyond the video and a Wikipedia page.
  • A third participant suggests that spiral density waves are believed to be the short answer to the question of how spiral galaxies maintain their shape.
  • Additional sources, including supercomputer simulations and articles from NASA, are provided to support the discussion and explore related phenomena.
  • One participant expresses interest in further visual documentation of a star with spiral arms, which raises questions about its relation to galaxy physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mechanisms behind the shape maintenance of spiral galaxies, with multiple viewpoints and sources being presented without definitive agreement.

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Some assumptions regarding the nature of density waves and their comparison to quantum mechanics remain unresolved. The discussion includes references to external sources that may have varying levels of detail and clarity.

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Individuals interested in astrophysics, particularly those exploring the dynamics of galaxies and the theoretical frameworks explaining their structures.

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So I was watching this:

which talks about the winding paradox of spiral galaxies, e.g. the stars all move at the same relative speed however that shape is maintained. However, we still have those shapes.
The video talks about density waves of some sort. I don't really understand. This can't be some sort of probability density coming from wave amplitude like in quantum mechanics, or is it?

Anyone care to elaborate or if you have your own explanation?

Thanks!
 
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twofu said:
The video talks about density waves of some sort. I don't really understand. This can't be some sort of probability density coming from wave amplitude like in quantum mechanics, or is it?
You are correct, it has nothing to do with quantum mechanics. Unfortunately I do not know much more on this topic than is in that video and on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density_wave_theory" . The wikipedia page has several animations that help demonstrate some of the ideas you heard about in the video.
 
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Thanks for the sources, it helped a lot :)
 
Yeah that star with the spiral arms is very interesting, i would like to see more pictures of it :S
 

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