How do we define a wave function?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the definition and understanding of a wave function in the context of quantum mechanics, including its relationship to Schrödinger's equation. Participants explore both conceptual and mathematical aspects of wave functions.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on what a wave function is and its connection to Schrödinger's equation.
  • Another participant questions whether the inquiry pertains to general waves or specifically to quantum mechanics, asking for the inquirer’s background to tailor the response.
  • A participant identifies themselves as a student seeking to understand the wave function, noting their awareness that the square of the wave function relates to probability density but expressing confusion about its true nature.
  • It is suggested that the wave function does not represent something measurable but serves as a mathematical representation of the system's state, with the Schrödinger equation describing its time evolution.
  • Another participant adds that the wave function can be defined as the solutions to Schrödinger's equation, which is described as a constructed postulate rather than a derived result, emphasizing that real values must be obtained from the wave function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the interpretation of wave functions, with some suggesting they lack direct physical interpretation while others emphasize their mathematical significance. No consensus is reached on the nature of the wave function or the derivation of Schrödinger's equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for a foundational understanding of quantum mechanics and the limitations in interpreting wave functions without obtaining measurable values from them. The discussion reflects differing levels of familiarity with the subject matter.

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what is a wave function? And how do we define a wave function? How is it related to Schrödinger's equation?
 
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Are you asking about waves in general: water waves, light waves, sound waves, etc.? Or are you specifically asking about quantum mechanics?

And what's the background of your question? What level of physics are you studying now, how much math do you know, how far along are you in school, etc.? It's hard to answer questions when we have no idea what kind of answer is appropriate for you.
 
i am a hong kong form 7 student, 1 year from college.
i want to know about the wave funtion phi, in quantum mechanics, i only know that phi square is the probability density, but i don't quite understand what a wave function really is.
Also, i don't understand the derivation of the schrodiger equation.
 
It doesn't represent something measurable. It's a mathematical representation of the state of the system, and the Schrödinger equation describes how it changes with time. See #8 in this thread for a few more details. You should consider the Schrödinger equation a postulate, not a derived result. If you want to "derive" it, you're going to have to postulate something else first, e.g. what the solutions are.
 
Just to complement.. The wave function can be mathematically defined simply as the solutions of the Schrödinger's equation, which itself can't be derived. You can say the Schrödinger equation was constructed, so it describes the quantum mechanics as we observe it.

I don't think the wave functions have a direct physical interpretation. ( you have to obtain some real value from it, like it's square)
 

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