How do we know how old the universe is?

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The discussion revolves around the methods used to determine the age of the universe, focusing on measurements of cosmic background radiation and the expansion rate of the universe. Participants explore the implications of these measurements and the underlying processes involved in the formation of cosmic background radiation.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

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  • One participant inquires about the methods used to determine the age of the universe.
  • Another participant suggests starting with a Wikipedia article on the age of the universe.
  • It is proposed that measurements of cosmic background radiation and the universe's expansion rate can be used to estimate the universe's age at approximately thirteen billion years.
  • A question is raised about the origin of cosmic background radiation.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the transition from a hot, dense plasma state to a transparent state, explaining how this relates to the cosmic background radiation and its characteristics.
  • The concept of the "surface of last scattering" is introduced as a significant point in the universe's history when light could travel freely.

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Participants express curiosity and provide information, but there is no consensus on the details of the processes involved or the implications of the measurements discussed.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the understanding of cosmic background radiation and the conditions of the early universe, which may not be fully articulated by all participants.

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As the title says, my question is how do we know how old the universe is? Thanks
 
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So measurements of the cosmic background radiation give the cooling time of the universe since the Big Bang,[2] and measurements of the expansion rate of the universe can be used to calculate it's approximate age by extrapolating backwards in time gives us the estimate of thirteen billion years as the age of the universe. Where does the cosmic background radiation come from? Thanks
 
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Where does the cosmic background radiation come from? Thanks

Google "surface of last scattering"
 
Anonymous_1 said:
Where does the cosmic background radiation come from? Thanks
As you extrapolate the expansion backwards, at some point the matter in the universe becomes so hot and dense that it turns into plasma(i.e., the electrons get stripped off atoms). Plasma is not transparent to light. Which means that before that point in time, light couldn't travel freely through the universe, bouncing off the free nuclei instead. This constant bouncing meant that all the matter was roughly at the same temperature, as the radiation would quickly transfer heat from the hotter parts to the colder. This in turn meant that the light looked as if it was emitted by a body of a certain temperature(look up blackbody radiation). That is, it had a certain range of well defined spectra.
So as the expansion passed that moment, i.e., the universe cooled enough for the nuclei to combine with electrons to form atoms, all the light that could not travel freely earlier could now escape. CMBR is that light. It's spectrum looks like that of a body at a temperature of some 3000 kelvin(which is when the plasma became transparent), stretched 1090 times. Hence you can hear of CMBR as being at 2.7 kelvin.
Since every bit of the universe was filled with plasma back then, and the expansion made all the plasma transparent at roughly the same moment, the radiation comes from all directions.
That transition from opaqueness to transparency occurred some 380 thousand years after the expansion started, and the "boundary" that CMBR creates in the sky is called "the surface of last scattering".
 

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