How Do You Calculate the Magnitude of Vector B in a Closed Hiking Trail Problem?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the magnitude of vector B in a closed hiking trail scenario, where three displacement vectors A, B, and C result in a net displacement of zero. The vectors are defined by their magnitudes and directions, with specific angles given relative to cardinal directions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formation of a triangle from the vectors and the application of the law of sines to find the magnitude of vector B. There are attempts to clarify the angles associated with the vectors, and some participants express uncertainty about their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the accuracy of their angles. Some guidance has been offered regarding drawing diagrams to visualize the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the expectation of prior knowledge in vectors for the homework, and there is a sense of frustration regarding the accuracy of their calculations and the acceptance of their answers by an online checker.

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Homework Statement



The route followed by a hiker consists of three displacement vectors A, B and C. Vector A is along a measured trail and is 2500 m in a direction 25.8° north of east. Vector B is not along a measured trail, but the hiker uses a compass and knows that the direction is 43.1° east of south. Similarly, the direction of vector C is 32.2° north of west. The hiker ends up back where she started, so the resultant displacement is zero, or A + B + C = 0. Calculate the magnitude of vector B.

Homework Equations



This is for my physics course. The teacher expects us to know vectors already, and I have never had them. I have tried for over 3 hours to solve this question. No luck.

The Attempt at a Solution



I realize that the vectors form a triangle since the displacement is 0. So I tried to assign the correct values to the interior of the triangle, and then use the law of sines to find the magnitude of vector b.

I bet there is a better way to solve this but I have no idea.

Please help me guys!

Thanks!
 
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malik123 said:
I realize that the vectors form a triangle since the displacement is 0. So I tried to assign the correct values to the interior of the triangle, and then use the law of sines to find the magnitude of vector b.
That's the correct way to do it.
 
Quincy said:
That's the correct way to do it.

I guess I am just getting the incorrect angles.
 
malik123, show your work so we can see what you've done. We can look for your error.
 
hage567 said:
malik123, show your work so we can see what you've done.

Amazingly quick response. Ok! one sec
 
Ok the angles I got were:

58 degrees, opposite to the B side.
14.7 opposite to 2500.
107.3 opposite to the x axis.

I found these using alternate angles. I think I most certainly did it wrong, cause my answer is not correct.

Then I used the law of sines,

Sin 14.7/2500 = sin58/ B

B = 8354.9

Which is wrong!

Just so you don't get the wrong idea. I am not trying to come get a free answer. I just need a little help or direction, and then I can try once again to solve the problem!

Thanks
 
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I found these using alternate angles. I think I most certainly did it wrong, cause my answer is not correct.

Show how u used Laws of Sine cos. I found the angles to be the same as yrs.:wink:
 
DarylMBCP said:
Show how u used Laws of Sine cos. I found the angles to be the same as yrs.:wink:

I just did. So what did I do wrong?
 
Lol, I was typing my comment while u were typing yr solution. K, anw, tht's the same answer I got.
 
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DarylMBCP said:
Lol, I was typing my comment while u were typing yr solution. K, anw, tht's the same answer I got.

Thanks for the help.

For some reason though, the online answer checker won't accept this answer as correct. =(
 
  • #11
malik123 said:
Thanks for the help.

For some reason though, the online answer checker won't accept this answer as correct. =(

Hey do you go to UGA or use a website called loncapa?
 
  • #12
Kennyh said:
Hey do you go to UGA or use a website called loncapa?

Loncapa
 
  • #13
Your interior angles are wrong, 58 is right though. Draw a picture of where A and B meet. Draw a horizantal line at the vertex and label what you know.
 
  • #14
Jebus_Chris said:
Your interior angles are wrong, 58 is right though. Draw a picture of where A and B meet. Draw a horizantal line at the vertex and label what you know.

I tried again and I keep getting the same angles.

I don't know what I am doing wrong!
 

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