How do you prove it for a general point inside the earth?

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The discussion revolves around understanding gravitational forces at various points inside the Earth, particularly how weight changes as one moves toward the center. Participants are exploring the implications of gravitational field strength and the relationship to Gauss' Theorem.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the gravitational field strength inside a sphere and how it varies with distance from the center. Questions are raised about the necessity of Gauss' Theorem for explaining these concepts, with some seeking simpler explanations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different explanations for gravitational behavior inside the Earth, with some participants suggesting Newton's Shell Theorems as an alternative to Gauss' Theorem. Guidance has been offered regarding the implications of these theorems, but no consensus has been reached on a preferred explanation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express a lack of familiarity with Gauss' Theorem and seek to avoid it, indicating a potential constraint in their understanding. The discussion includes varying levels of knowledge among participants, particularly with references to educational levels such as O level.

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As we go inside the bulk of the Earth our effective weights decrease gradually and eventually turn to a 'nought' as we reach the graviational center of the earth.
It is understandable why there is no weight at the center of the earth. There are equal number of masses in every direction around the center point. So there is no net force toward any direction.

How do you prove it for a general point inside the earth?
 
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What is the force per unit mass (the gravitational field strength) inside a sphere of radius R? Outside, it falls off as inverse square, but inside it varies linearly with the radial coordinate...so for r = 0, the field strength is zero too.
 
Can you explain why?
 
I read somewhere that this is related with Gauss' Theorem. Gauss' Theorem is out of my scope. Can it be explained reasonablely without Gauss' Theorem?

Thnx in advance.
 
Ahmed Abdullah said:
I read somewhere that this is related with Gauss' Theorem. Gauss' Theorem is out of my scope. Can it be explained reasonablely without Gauss' Theorem?

Thnx in advance.

The reasonable explanation is what you said. The quantative explanation is Gauss' Theorum
 
Can't it be explained in simple way? Gauss' theorem is something I haven't learned before, so I am trying to avoid it. But if it is simple enough then please state the essense of Gauss' theorem in basic terms. I am an O level student.
 
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Thnx a lot Doc Al for your sensible answer.
 
Doc Al said:
(1) The gravitational field anywhere inside a uniform spherical shell of mass is zero.
(2) The gravitational field anywhere outside a uniform spherical shell of mass is as if the shell's mass were concentrated at the center.
A refination:

(1a) The gravitational field anywhere inside a uniform spherical shell (i.e. hollow) of mass is zero.

(1b) The gravitational field anywhere inside a uniform solid sphere is equivalent to standing on a sphere of that (smaller) radius (i.e If one were 100km from the centre of the Earth, one would experience a gravitational pull as if one were standing at the surface of a sphere only 100km in radius - all mass outside 100km is exactly equivalent to a hollow sphere as in 1a, and thus contributes zero.)

(3) The gravitational field anywhere outside a uniform spherical shell of mass is as if the shell's mass were concentrated at the center.


I think it's actually (1b) that the poster is looking for.
 
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Your 1b follows immediately from Newton's shell theorems (my 1 and 2).
 

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