How fast does the Earth need to move to provide centripital acceleration

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of centripetal acceleration in the context of Earth's rotation. The original poster presents a multi-part homework question involving calculations of centripetal acceleration at the equator, the required speed for centripetal acceleration to equal gravitational acceleration, and the effects of latitude on these calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculations for centripetal acceleration and its relationship to gravitational acceleration. They discuss the implications of latitude on these values and question the assumptions made in the problem, particularly regarding the relationship between gravity and centripetal acceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the original poster's calculations and interpretations, particularly regarding part (d) of the problem. There is a recognition that the centripetal acceleration is necessary for maintaining circular motion, and some suggest that the angle may not significantly affect the required speed at the equator. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem and the need for sketches to visualize the scenarios described. There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of the calculations and the requirements of the homework task, particularly regarding the function of latitude in the final answers.

  • #31
How did u do c,d and e??
 
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  • #32
Makonia said:
For e you know that (G*M*m)/r^2 is the force and since F=m*a where a=v^2/r you can solve the problem by solving it for v and then setting in the formula for T instead. Then you will get the time for one lap. If you are a UiS student and that's why you're wondering about d I would suggest you ask the student helpers this week. They can probably explain it way better than me since writing step by step here would take a long time for me
Did you get the periode for the object to do one lap equal to 268,7s ?? Felt that this answear was very small, but i got the formula T = 2*pi*r / (sqrt(G*M/r)
 
  • #33
hefalomp said:
Did you get the periode for the object to do one lap equal to 268,7s ?? Felt that this answear was very small, but i got the formula T = 2*pi*r / (sqrt(G*M/r)
No I got 6000 and something s, your formula looks wrong so you should try to do it again
 
  • #34
Sabalaba said:
How did u do c,d and e??
How to do both c and e is written in this thread so just read it. For d it's difficult for me to explain because I'm not sure myself. Thats why I asked here but don't know if I'm all that wiser on it anyways
 
  • #35
Makonia said:
How to do both c and e is written in this thread so just read it. For d it's difficult for me to explain because I'm not sure myself. Thats why I asked here but don't know if I'm all that wiser on it anyways
ok, thank u!
The problems are so hard
 
  • #36
Makonia said:
No I got 6000 and something s, your formula looks wrong so you should try to do it again
I think i figured it out, i used wrong radius, i forgot to add up the radius of the Earth as well :s, i now got 6170 s, is that the same as u got?
 
  • #37
hefalomp said:
I think i figured it out, i used wrong radius, i forgot to add up the radius of the Earth as well :s, i now got 6170 s, is that the same as u got?
No, I got a little bit more. You used this equation: T = 2*pi*r / (sqrt(G*M/r)?
 
  • #38
Yes, might be that that is wrong then? But you said that (G*M*m)/r^2 is the force and since F=m*a where a=v^2/r you can solve the problem by solving it for v and then setting in the formula for T instead. Can i not use that (G*M*m)/r^2 = m* v^2/r, and solv it for v, then put v in T = 2*pi*r/v ?
 
  • #39
hefalomp said:
Yes, might be that that is wrong then? But you said that (G*M*m)/r^2 is the force and since F=m*a where a=v^2/r you can solve the problem by solving it for v and then setting in the formula for T instead. Can i not use that (G*M*m)/r^2 = m* v^2/r, and solv it for v, then put v in T = 2*pi*r/v ?
I guess we have just done it differently. I got the formula: T=sqrt((4*pi^2*r^3)/(G*M))
 
  • #40
You have used the same formula. One formula is just simplified
 
  • #41
Makonia said:
I guess we have just done it differently. I got the formula: T=sqrt((4*pi^2*r^3)/(G*M))
Even when I use your formula i also get 6170 seconds, do you use r = 7271000 , M = 5,97219*10^24 and G = 6.67408*10^-11 ?
 
  • #42
r is 7,3*10^6
 
  • #43
hefalomp said:
Even when I use your formula i also get 6170 seconds, do you use r = 7271000 , M = 5,97219*10^24 and G = 6.67408*10^-11 ?
No I use the values for r, M and g stated in the task. In other words M=6*10^24, r = 7300*10^3 and I used G with two decimals
 
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  • #44
Makonia said:
No I use the values for r, M and g stated in the task. In other words M=6*10^24, r = 7300*10^3 and I used G with two decimals
Well, that's explanes why i got wrong, i searched for the radius and mass of Earth on google, didnt se that they were mentioned in the task :) Now i should get the right answear..
 

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