How Do You Solve Problems with Multiple Unknowns?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around strategies for solving problems that involve multiple unknowns, particularly in practical scenarios such as fixing machines. Participants explore their approaches, the balance between instinct and logic, and the challenges posed by incomplete information.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a reliance on instinct rather than a systematic approach when solving problems with multiple unknowns, acknowledging that this may not be the best method.
  • Another participant suggests that if there are several independent equations, a systematic approach is necessary, possibly involving computer tools.
  • Participants inquire about the types of problems being addressed, with one mentioning the challenges of fixing machines without proper diagrams.
  • Some participants mention using a combination of logic and mechanical instinct, noting a surprisingly high success rate despite the lack of formal plans.
  • The Polya method is mentioned as a potential approach, though details on its application are not provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solving problems with multiple unknowns. There are competing views on the effectiveness of instinct versus systematic methods, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal strategy.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the challenges posed by outdated or missing diagrams, which may impact their problem-solving processes. There is also an acknowledgment of the varying success rates among different approaches.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals involved in troubleshooting and maintenance of machinery, particularly in industries where equipment may be outdated or poorly documented, may find this discussion relevant.

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How do you go about finding a solution if there are several unknowns ? i seem
to be useing instinct rather than logic, or a bit of both, to get things fixed quickly, i know it is the wrong thing to do ,one should start solving a problem from the beginning or end, but this way seems to take much longer.
 
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If you truly have several independent equations, there is no shortcut. Maybe, use a computer tool?
 
wolram said:
How do you go about finding a solution if there are several unknowns ? i seem
to be useing instinct rather than logic, or a bit of both, to get things fixed quickly, i know it is the wrong thing to do ,one should start solving a problem from the beginning or end, but this way seems to take much longer.
What kind of problem are you thinking about here?
 
zoobyshoe said:
What kind of problem are you thinking about here?

Fixing all typs of machine Zooby, often with no, or outdated wireing/pnumatic
diagrams, the food industry seems to prefer adapted secondhand machines to
purpose built new ones, i suppose they are right in a way as they are so mistreated, but it sure don't help me when they stop working.
 
wolram said:
How do you go about finding a solution if there are several unknowns ? i seem
to be useing instinct rather than logic, or a bit of both, to get things fixed quickly, i know it is the wrong thing to do ,one should start solving a problem from the beginning or end, but this way seems to take much longer.

The Polya method.
 
wolram said:
Fixing all typs of machine Zooby, often with no, or outdated wireing/pnumatic
diagrams,
While I prefer to have plans on hand, I seem to usually just go by logic and a bit of mechanical instinct. My success rate rather astounds me. :bugeye:
 
Danger said:
While I prefer to have plans on hand, I seem to usually just go by logic and a bit of mechanical instinct. My success rate rather astounds me. :bugeye:

Why be astounded ? i find the ability to solve problems quickly earns one fame,
and your fans ring you all times of day or night
 

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