How Do You Solve Spring and Force Calculations in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a mass hanging from a spring, focusing on concepts such as weight displacement, equilibrium position, and restoring forces. The subject area includes mechanics and spring dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definitions of weight displacement and equilibrium position, questioning how these relate to the spring's behavior. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the spring constant and the forces involved. Some participants express confusion about calculating the weight of the extended spring and the nature of oscillation.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions and seeking clarification on key concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equilibrium position, emphasizing the balance of forces rather than the unstretched length of the spring. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and calculations required for the problem, including the need for units in their answers and the implications of the spring's behavior under different conditions.

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1. Homework Statement
Suppose a 1 kg mass hangs from a spring with rest length of 2 m and spring constant of 100 N/m. Then, the spring is compressed by 0.5 m. Using up as the positive direction and ignoring drag, give the following with units:

(a) The weight displacement
(b) The equilibrium position
(c) The maximum length
(d) The sign of the initial restoring force
(e) The restoring force when the length of the spring is 3.15 m

2. Homework Equations
Fs = -kx
F = ma

3. The Attempt at a Solution
a) .5
b)This is what i do not know
c)also do not know
d)Fs = Force of spring
e)Fs = 100N/m *3.15m -> 315N
 
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a) What is a "weight displacement"? Your answer needs units.
b) Can you calculate the weight extending the spring? How is this related to the extension of the spring (at equilibrium) and the spring constant?
c) Quickest way: the oscillation will be symmetric around the equilibrium position.
d) The answer is a sign (+ or -).
e) Test your answer with the restoring force at a length of 2m. What do you expect?
 
a) .5m displacement is stretched - un-stretched
b) I am really confused here, I do not know how to calculate weight of extended spring. Also, where is the equilibrium, at rest length or un-stretched length?

c) How do i see the oscillation of this spring?
 
daveyboy157 said:
where is the equilibrium, at rest length or un-stretched length?
c) How do i see the oscillation of this spring?
The equilibrium position is the one where it would remain stationary if set stationary. I.e., all the forces balance. This will not be the unstretched position, because some stretch is needed to balance the force of gravity. Neither will it be the instantaneous rest position of the oscillation.
 

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