How Does a Boy Scout Use Eyeglasses to Start a Fire?

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The problem involves a boy scout using a lens from his eyeglasses to focus sunlight on kindling, with specific distances related to the lens and the near point of the eye. The context is centered around optics, specifically the use of lenses and magnification.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for maximum magnification and magnification when the eye is relaxed, referencing the lens formula and magnification equations. There are attempts to clarify the use of units and the implications of the near point provided.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, checking calculations and questioning the assumptions regarding the near point. Some guidance has been offered regarding unit consistency, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a "normal" eye and a specific near point of 15.2 cm, which differs from the typical 25 cm often assumed in similar problems. Participants are also under time constraints to resolve the problem.

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Homework Statement



A boy scout starts a fire by using a lens from his eyeglasses to focus sunlight on kindling 5.2 cm from the lens. The boy scout has a near point of 15.2 cm. When the lens is used as a simple magnifier, give values for the following conditions. (Hint: Assume a "normal" eye.)
(a) What is the maximum magnification that can be achieved

(b) What is the magnification when the eye is relaxed


Homework Equations


1/p + 1/q = 1/f
Mmax= 1+ 25cm/f


The Attempt at a Solution


I used p=+5.2 and q= -(15.2)-((1/2)5.2)=-17.8
then 1/5.2 - 1/17.8 +1/f
f= 7.34
so, Mmax= 1+ 25/7.34= 4.406 but that is wrong?!?
can anyone help?
 
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You have to put everything in meters... you're using cm... check your units...
 
floridianfisher said:

Homework Equations


1/p + 1/q = 1/f
Mmax= 1+ 25cm/f
That last equation assumes a near point of 25cm, but you are given a different near point to use.

(No problem using cm everywhere, as long as you are consistent.)
 
So i used the same equation except for Mmax I used 1+ 15.2/7.346= 3.068 but still the answere is not right?
 
Please help soon as I do not have much time left to solve this problem.
Thanks
 
floridianfisher said:
So i used the same equation except for Mmax I used 1+ 15.2/7.346= 3.068 but still the answere is not right?
What's the focal length of the lens?

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A boy scout starts a fire by using a lens from his eyeglasses to focus sunlight on kindling 5.2 cm from the lens.
 

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