Tobias Funke said:
I think that's exactly what spacemonkey412 is talking about: "it's just a pop song", or "it's just a word", "it's just a team name", "it's just a compliment", etc. These things add up and it's the easiest thing in the world for white men, for example, to dismiss them. And "gangster rap" is just a type of song too, if we're going that route.
Nobody's criticizing "moderate" feminism because they lump every feminist into the category of "radical" and then criticize feminism that way (while claiming that modern feminists have lost their way, as if they're the real feminists or something). It happens with anyone or any group that criticizes the prevailing social conditions--despite the pathetic attempts by today's conservatives to pretend that they admire MLK and would have been on his side, he was very much considered a radical extremist.
Maybe you aren't one of these people, but your responses are literally the exact same ones always thrown out against feminists, and this very thread was immediately derailed by some guy claiming that it was sexism that a woman got a job instead of him and then you claiming things are being crammed down your throat. Maybe you can actually say what you think is so bad about that video? Do you think they're claiming that every woman gets raped every day or something? They're trying to make a point that on an everyday level a lot of women get unwanted attention to the point of not feeling safe, and on a more extreme level, accusations of rape aren't taken seriously and the women are often blamed. There were at least two high-profile rape cases in the last year where this was on full display: coverups, victim-blaming, death threats, houses burned down, etc.
There are some things about feminists that can be criticized, like the lack of intersectionality by some of them, but that's to be expected. Even in that video, that Muslim (I think) guy was weird and a little bordering on the old white savior theme, especially from a former imperialist power...
The extremism is seen in terms of, e.g., cherry-picking, where (often genuine) injustices against women are highlighted , but injustices against men are ignored : family court (which assumes by default the mother is a better parent) , lack of reproductive rights, etc. It is also seen --often in some of the comedy channels: Fox or MSNBC -- in terms of claims like "women get paid $.77 for every $1.00 a man makes, for doing the same job". This is extremely difficult to prove, given there are hundreds of different jobs, and the difficulty of measuring the amount of work done, etc. *
But the radicals repeat it as a given, as a plain, clear and uncontroversial fact ( Obama lowered himself to saying that the inequality can be seen as " plain Math" --most likely catering to part of his base, describing those who disagree with him, as " not wanting equality of pay for both sexes). When asked to support this statement, ladies replied : " but of course is true" , or " young people today agree with us". And here again there is the cherry-picking ( or maybe just ignorance) that men tend to take the riskier jobs , i.e., the jobs with higher fatality rates -- even seen a female miner, oil-rig worker (see below for refs.) ?
Some references for my claims. While there are valid points made by the women's movement, they (the more radical ones) claim to be doing worse than men across-the-board, i.e., in most, if not all areas. There are many areas where men are doing more poorly than man that the feminasty movement does not bring-up :
* Let alone the fact that if this was true, no boss would want to hire a man: just hire all women, and pocket the 23% difference.
1)Here is some data on deaths on the job, by the BLS (Bureau of Labor Stats ):
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/09/occupational-male-female-death-gap-is.html
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2) Death rates for Prostate Cancer similar to death rates for Breast cancer. But breast
cancer gets more than twice the funding. Ever seen street ads for prostate cancer?
Me neither, but I've seen hundreds for prostate cancer. See page 2 of:
http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/content/@research/documents/webcontent/acspc-042151.pdf
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3)Imprisonment rates by gender:
http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/genderinc.html
around 10.5-to-1 male-to-female.
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Suicide rates for over-50. Men vs. Women (per 100,000 ).
27.3 for men , 8.1 for women . More than 3-to-1. :
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/health/suicide-rate-rises-sharply-in-us.html?_r=0
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High school dropout rates for males vs. females : 8.5 to 6.3 :
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779196.htmlThis makes it difficult to argue that women are systematically oppressed and mistreated in comparison to men.
Does this not make the feminasties look radical?
How about the stupidity of naming themselves 'womyn' to avoid having 'women' ending up in ..men. How about then using 'hisbal tea' , or why do we use mother nature? How about motherland, mother country?
This is typical of radical movements: cherry-picking. Maybe this is just confirmation bias on steroids, since the comedy channels Fox, MSNBC have business models based on catering to the radicals.
