How Does Cramer's Rule Relate to Geometry?

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The discussion centers on the geometric interpretation of Cramer's Rule, particularly in relation to coordinate transformations and the representation of vectors. Participants explore the reasoning behind specific expressions and the pairing of points in the context of the rule.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the expression $$x=\frac{ON}{OQ}$$ from a geometric perspective, suggesting that it should simply be $$x=ON$$ based on coordinate transformation.
  • Another participant clarifies that the terminology of "unit (basis) vectors" is potentially misleading, explaining that the lengths of the vectors define the units in the new coordinate system, leading to the expression $$x = ON/OQ$$ in the new units.
  • A different participant raises a question about the pairing of points (a,c) and (b,d), wondering why they are paired this way instead of (a,b) and (c,d).
  • Another participant suggests a resource, "Geometric Algebra for Computer Science," which provides an explanation of the geometric meaning of Cramer's Rule, mentioning that coefficients can be understood as ratios of areas in the plane.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the geometric interpretation of Cramer's Rule and the terminology used in the paper. There is no consensus on the pairing of points or the expressions derived from the coordinate transformation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the definitions of unit vectors and the implications of coordinate transformations. The discussion does not resolve the assumptions underlying these interpretations.

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Readers interested in the geometric aspects of linear algebra, particularly those studying Cramer's Rule and coordinate transformations, may find this discussion relevant.

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hey pf!

so my question is how cramer's rule makes sense from a geometric perspective. I'm reading the following article:

http://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/268994245608.pdf

and i am good with the logic of the entire article except one point: when they say $$x=\frac{ON}{OQ}$$ can someone please take a quick second and explain to me why this is the case? i thought from the coordinate transformation we would simply have $$x=ON$$

let me know what you think! i'd really appreciate it!

also, i do hate directing you all to another link but it is too much to put on this post, although it is pretty simple stuff.
 
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He is using slightly confusing terminology when he refers to "unit (basis) vectors," which he elaborates on in the Note on p. 36. The vectors ##(a,c)## and ##(b,d)## are being called unit vectors because their lengths define the units in the new coordinate system relative to the old one. Their lengths are not assumed to be equal to 1 in the old coordinate system. So when we compute ##x##, we want to do it in the new units, which leads to ##x = ON/OQ##. In the old units, it is indeed given by ##ON##.
 
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sorry to bring this up again, but rethinking this paper, how is it we allowed the points (a,c) and (b,d) to be paired. in other words, why not (a,b) and (c,d)?

sorry it has been so long, but i am very curious here.

thanks!
 
This doesn't relate directly to the paper you're reading. But if you want a good explanation of the geometrical meaning of Cramer's Rule, check out "Geometric Algebra for Computer Science," by Dorst et al.

Section 2.7.1 explains it rather nicely. If you're not already familiar with bivectors and the outer product, the rest of Chapter 2 gives a good intro.

The basic idea is that the coefficients are just a ratio of areas in the plane.
 
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