How Is Average Force Calculated in a Football Collision?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the average force exerted on a post by a football during a collision. The problem involves a football player throwing a football, which then collides with a post, and the relevant parameters include the masses of the football and the player, the initial and final velocities of the football, and the duration of contact with the post.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the average force using the change in momentum and the time of contact. Some participants question the relevance of the football player's mass in this context, suggesting it does not affect the calculation of force during the collision.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants confirming the calculations made by the original poster and exploring the implications of including or excluding the football player's mass in the analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the assumptions made regarding the relevance of the football player's mass and its impact on the average force calculation.

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Homework Statement



A football player whose mass is 85 kg throws a football with a mass of 0.8 kg against a post. The football hits the post traveling horizontally with a speed of 25 m/s, and then it bounces back with about the same speed. The football is in contact with the post for 0.05 s. What average force is exerted on the post by the ball?

m = 0.8 kg
vi = 25 m/s
vf = -25 m/s
t= 0.05s

Homework Equations



FΔt=m(vf-vi)

F = \frac{m(vf-vi)}{Δt}

The Attempt at a Solution



F = \frac{0.8(-25-25)}{.05-0} = -800N by the post.

Is the mass of the football player irrelevant?
 
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Why would the mass of the football player be relevant? All he does is imparts the initial kinetic energy to the ball. The same thing could be done with a 3,000kg piece of equipment. So yes, the football player's mass is irrelevant.
 
So my calculations are correct without the football player's mass?
 
Looks good to me.
 

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