How is it also a graviton particle as in string theory

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between gravity as described by curved spacetime and the concept of gravitons in string theory. It explores theoretical frameworks and the nature of gravity from both classical and quantum perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how gravity can be understood as both a curvature of spacetime and as a particle (graviton) in string theory.
  • Another participant suggests that curved spacetime and gravitons represent alternative descriptions of gravity, akin to the relationship between classical electromagnetism and quantum electrodynamics.
  • It is noted that a generally accepted theory of quantum gravity, which would include gravitons, is still lacking, and that gravitons remain a speculative concept without experimental confirmation.
  • A participant introduces the idea of "Coherent States" as a connection between quantum states of gravitons and classical gravitational metrics.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding the technical language used, indicating a need for simpler explanations.
  • Another participant acknowledges the challenge of simplifying the explanation but suggests referring to the previous post for clarification.

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Participants express differing levels of understanding and familiarity with the concepts discussed. There is no consensus on the clarity of the explanations provided, and the relationship between the two descriptions of gravity remains a topic of exploration.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the speculative nature of gravitons and the lack of experimental evidence supporting their existence. The connection between coherent states and classical gravitational metrics is mentioned but not fully elaborated, leaving some assumptions and definitions unresolved.

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if gravity is a a sheet of space and time how is it also a graviton particle as in string theory
 
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Curved spacetime on the one hand and gravitons on the other hand, would be two alternative descriptions of gravity. This is similar to the way that classical electric and magnetic fields on the one hand, and quantum electrodynamics with photons on the other hand, are alternative descriptions of electromagnetism.

Keep in mind that we do not (yet) have a generally accepted theory of quantum gravity (which would include gravitons), nor do we yet have any experimental observations which clearly require gravitons for their explanation. Gravitons are still pretty much a speculative concept. This is unlike quantum electrodynamics which has been tested extensively by experiments, and does explain experiments that classical electrodynamics does not.
 


One makes the connection between the two descriptions through a special kind of quantum state called a "Coherent State". In QED: coherent states of photons form the classical (or semi-classical to be technically correct) electromagnetic field. A similar thing happens with gravitons: a coherent state of gravitons generates a classical (curved) metric.
 


if possible can some one dumb up what he just said I am only in high school and all these big words are confusing lol
 


not sure I can dumb it down very much. You should go with jtbell's post.

coherent states are a way to reproduce classical physics behavior in a quantum mechanical system. don't worry about the details.
 

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