How is ħ pronounced and what is its significance in physics?

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The discussion revolves around the pronunciation and significance of the symbol ħ, known as the reduced Planck's constant, in the context of physics. Participants explore the differences between ħ and the regular Planck's constant, h, as well as the implications for communication in non-technical settings, such as translating scripts for a general audience.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that ħ is pronounced "h-bar," while others question whether the italics affect pronunciation.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the distinction between ħ and h, initially believing they are the same.
  • Another participant clarifies that Planck's constant is represented by h, while the reduced Planck's constant is represented by ħ, which is defined as ħ = h/2π.
  • One participant humorously mentions a professor who referred to it as "h-a-srash," indicating informal or varied pronunciations exist.
  • There is a suggestion that the discussion has been useful for summarizing the differences between the constants, despite initial confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the pronunciation and significance of ħ and h. While some agree on the pronunciation of ħ as "h-bar," others question the necessity of distinguishing between the two symbols based on typesetting. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved, with differing opinions on the clarity of the terms.

Contextual Notes

Some participants demonstrate uncertainty about the definitions and uses of ħ and h, indicating a potential lack of familiarity with the topic. The conversation reflects a mix of technical understanding and layperson confusion.

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I'm translating a fascinating science movie script, and there is ħ - Planck's constant in it. That text will be read aloud, so I cannot just write ħ, because the speaker will choke. He/she will probably have little idea about physics.

Is it true, that only ħ (in italics), the reduced Planck's constant, is pronounced h-bar? If so, how do you spell the regular ħ?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Emily111 said:
I'm translating a fascinating science movie script, and there is ħ - Planck's constant in it. That text will be read aloud, so I cannot just write ħ, because the speaker will choke. He/she will probably have little idea about physics.

Is it true, that only ħ (in italics), the reduced Planck's constant, is pronounced h-bar? If so, how do you spell the regular ħ?

Thanks in advance!

I've seen odd questions in the many years I've been here, but this has got to rank among the top.

Shouldn't they be pronounced the SAME way? The only difference is the typesetting. That has "no sound". Can you produce a citation where the italics and non-italics symbols have different pronunciation and represents different things?

Zz.
 
OK Not sure why, but I thought ħ is Planck's constant, and ħ is reduced Planck's constant. You are dealing with a laywoman here. I know better now, and I'd be happy if someone would delete this thread. o:)
 
If I understand the question right, it is pronounced "h bar".
 
Emily111 said:
OK Not sure why, but I thought ħ is Planck's constant, and ħ is reduced Planck's constant. You are dealing with a laywoman here. I know better now, and I'd be happy if someone would delete this thread. o:)
Planck's constant is ##h##, the reduced Planck constant is ##\hbar = \frac{h}{2\pi}##.
 
Emily111 said:
OK Not sure why, but I thought ħ is Planck's constant, and ħ is reduced Planck's constant. You are dealing with a laywoman here. I know better now, and I'd be happy if someone would delete this thread. o:)

Just plain ##h## is Planck's constant. In Quantum Mechanics ##h## appears divided by ##2\pi## all the time. At some point, someone must have got fed up writing ##\frac{h}{2\pi}##, and the reduced Planck's constant came about: "h-bar" ##\hbar = \frac{h}{2\pi}##.
 
Emily111 said:
I know better now, and I'd be happy if someone would delete this thread.
No need to delete -- it has been useful to summarize the difference...
TeethWhitener said:
Planck's constant is ##h##, the reduced Planck constant is ##\hbar = \frac{h}{2\pi}##.
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Getting used to this nerdy culture, Emily :smile: ?
 
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