How long does it take for a white dwarf to go supernova through accretion?

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The discussion revolves around the time it takes for a white dwarf to go supernova through the process of accretion from a companion star. Participants explore the theoretical estimates and relevant literature on accretion rates and the mechanisms involved in type Ia supernovae.

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Main Points Raised

  • San inquires about the typical time frame for a white dwarf to go supernova through accretion, suggesting a range of thousands to millions of years.
  • One participant references Townsley and Bildsten (2003), noting that accretion rates for cataclysmic variables range from 10^(-11) to 10^(-8) solar masses per year, and provides a rough estimate that reaching the Chandrasekhar limit could take approximately 3.8 x 10^7 to 3.8 x 10^10 years, depending on initial mass and accretion rate.
  • Another participant expresses interest in the accretion rate for neutron stars in binary systems, indicating a curiosity about comparative rates.
  • A further response offers a theoretical framework for calculating accretion rates based on disk luminosity and the Eddington limit, suggesting that this could provide insights into maximum accretion rates.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific time frame for a white dwarf to go supernova, and various estimates and models are presented without resolution of the differences.

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The discussion highlights the uncertainty surrounding the mechanisms of type Ia supernovae and the dependence on various assumptions regarding accretion rates and initial conditions.

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Hi,

Let's say we have a white dwarf accreting material from a giant partner. How long would it typically take for the white dwarf to go supernova? Is it of the order of a thousand years? A million? Any references would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
San
 
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Townsley and Bildsten (2003) (http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/0309208) find accretion rates for cataclysmic variables 10^(-11) - 10^(-8) Msun/yr, but I am sure you can find more papers on this (I just did a very short search), and different values depending on the assumptions.

A very rough estimate: the Chandrasekhar limit of 1.38 solar masses could be reached in approximately 3.8 10^7 - 3.8 10^10 years, assuming that you start with a white dwarf of 1 solar mass and accrete at the above rate.

There is a lot of work going on on this subject and the mechanism of type Ia supernovae is still not well understood. I think you would find the existing literature very interesting.
 
Out of general interest, do you have any idea what the accretion rate is for a neutron star in a binary system?
 
I don't have a number to give you on neutron stars, but here is a simple way to calculate an accretion rate:
A rough theoretical estimate for the accretion rate on a disk is given by the luminosity of the disk:

L{disk} = G M M{dot} / 2R

where L{disk} the disk luminosity, M{dot} the mass accretion rate and M and R the mass and radius of the accreting object (you find a derivation in 'An Introduction to Modern Astrophysics' by Carroll and Ostlie).

The maximum luminosity an object can have and still stay in hydrostatic equilibrium is given by the Eddington limit:

L{max} / L_sun = 3.8 10^4 (M/M_sun)

Substituting the Eddington limit in the first equation can give you an estimate of the highest possible accretion rate.

I hope this helped! People more relevant to the field could post answers based on current research.
 

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