How Many Children in Year 8 Play Instruments?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving fractions of children in Year 8 who play different musical instruments, specifically the piano, violin, and drums. The original poster seeks to determine the total number of children based on given fractions and constraints.

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  • Participants explore the fractions of children playing instruments and question how to derive the total number of children based on these fractions. There is discussion about ensuring whole numbers of children and the implications of the total being less than 50.

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Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between the fractions and the total number of children, noting the necessity for whole numbers. There is ongoing exploration of possible totals that satisfy the conditions of the problem.

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Participants mention the constraint of having fewer than 50 children in Year 8 and the requirement that the number of children must be a whole number, which influences the calculations and assumptions being made.

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Ok here's the problem.

2/5 of the children in Year 8 play the piano.
1/4 of the children in Year 8 play the violin
No child plays more than one instrument.

1) Of the children in Year 8. What fraction do not play the piano or the violin?

Easy i did 1-(2/5+1/4) = 7/20There are fewer than 50 children in Year 8.
1/2 of the children who do not play the piano or the violin play the drums.

2) How many children are there in Year 8?

Stuck...

Thanks for your help in advance,

Nat
 
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Natasha1 said:
Ok here's the problem.

2/5 of the children in Year 8 play the piano.
1/4 of the children in Year 8 play the violin
No child plays more than one instrument.

1) Of the children in Year 8. What fraction do not play the piano or the violin?

Easy i did 1-(2/5+1/4) = 7/20


There are fewer than 50 children in Year 8.
1/2 of the children who do not play the piano or the violin play the drums.

2) How many children are there in Year 8?

Stuck...

Thanks for your help in advance,

Nat

I'm guessing here, but maybe the numbers do not turn out to be a whole number of children except if you get the total number of kids right. Does that help? You can't have a fraction of a kid...
 
Natasha1 said:
Ok here's the problem.
1) Of the children in Year 8. What fraction do not play the piano or the violin?

Easy i did 1-(2/5+1/4) = 7/20There are fewer than 50 children in Year 8.

1/2 of the children who do not play the piano or the violin play the drums.

So what fraction of the children play the drums?

If there are N children, home many children play the drums?
As Berkeman pointed out, only whole number of children can play the drums.

ehild
 
The fraction of children playing the drum is 3.5/20 or 7/40...

Which would make the total number of children in Year 8 to be 40. Is this correct?
 
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Natasha1 said:
The fraction of children playing the drum is 3.5/20 or 7/40...

Which would make the total number of children in Year 8 to be 40. Is this correct?

Yes. It could be any multiple of 40 to give integer number of children, but the problem said that there are less than 50 children in year 8.


ehild
 

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