How Many Digits in the Number $2^{100}$?

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The discussion centers around determining the number of digits in the number $2^{100}$ without using logarithms or calculators. Participants explore various methods and reasoning related to this mathematical problem.

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  • Some participants suggest different approaches to calculate the number of digits in $2^{100}$ without relying on logarithmic functions.
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  • One participant references an external link to support their speculation regarding the number of digits.

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without using logs and calculator find the number of digits in $2^{100}$
 
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Re: number of digit

(EDITED)

$$2^{100} = \left ( 2^{10} \right )^{10} = 1024^{10} = \left ( 1000 + 24 \right )^{10} = 1000^{10} + \sum_{i = 0}^{9} c_i 1000^{i} 24^{10 - i}$$
Where the $c_i$ are the binomial coefficients for this binomial term:
$$c_i = \left ( 1, 10, 45, 120, 210, 252, 210, 120, 45, 10 \right )$$
Now observe that for $0 \leq i \leq 9$ we have that:
$$c 1000^i 24^{10 - i} < \frac{9}{10} 1000^{10} ~ ~ \iff ~ ~ c 24^{10 - i} < \frac{9}{10} 1000^{10 - i} ~ ~ \iff ~ ~ c < \frac{9}{10} 40^{10 - i} < \frac{9}{10} \left ( \frac{1000}{24} \right )^{10 - i}$$
It is easy to see that this inequality holds true for all the binomial coefficients:
$$c_0 = 1 < \frac{9}{10} 40^{10}$$
$$c_1 = 10 < \frac{9}{10} 40^9$$
$$\cdots$$
$$c_7 = 120 < \frac{9}{10} 40^3$$
$$c_8 = 45 < \frac{9}{10} 40^2$$
$$c_9 = 10 < \frac{9}{10} 40^1$$
So we can say that:
$$c_i 1000^i 24^{10 - i} < \frac{9}{10} 1000^{10} ~ ~ ~ \left ( 0 \leq i \leq 9 \right )$$
And so:
$$\sum_{i = 0}^{9} c_i 1000^i 24^{10 - i} < 10 \cdot \frac{9}{10} \cdot 1000^{10} = 9 \cdot 1000^{10}$$
We therefore conclude that:
$$1000^{10} = 10^{30} < 2^{100} < 1000^{10} + 9 \cdot 1000^{10} = 10 \cdot 1000^{10} = 10^{31}$$
And so $2^{100}$ has $31$ digits.
 
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Re: number of digit

Bacterius said:
We therefore conclude that:
$$1000^{10} < 2^{100} < 1000^{10} + 9 \cdot 1000^{10} = 1000^{11}$$

it should be
$1000^{10} < 2^{100} < 1000^{10} + 9 \cdot 1000^{10} = 10 *1000^{10}$
 
Re: number of digit

$$2^{100}=1024^{10}=(1024^5)^2$$

$$1024^2$$ has 4 + 4 - 1 = 7 digits, $$1024^4$$ has 7 + 7 - 1 = 13 digits,

$$1024^5$$ has 13 + 4 - 1 = 16 digits, $$1024^{10}$$ has 16 + 16 - 1 = 31 digits.

Speculation at this point; $1024^{100}$ has 302 digits. :)
 
Re: number of digit

greg1313 said:
$$2^{100}=1024^{10}=(1024^5)^2$$

$$1024^2$$ has 4 + 4 - 1 = 7 digits, $$1024^4$$ has 7 + 7 - 1 = 13 digits,

$$1024^5$$ has 13 + 4 - 1 = 16 digits, $$1024^{10}$$ has 16 + 16 - 1 = 31 digits.

Speculation at this point; $1024^{100}$ has 302 digits. :)

not too convincing
2 digit * 2 digit can be 4 digit as 32 * 32 = 1024
 
Re: number of digit

kaliprasad said:
not too convincing
2 digit * 2 digit can be 4 digit as 32 * 32 = 1024
Leading 10...
 
Re: number of digit

greg1313 said:
Leading 10...

explanation was missing . now is is 100% correct
 
I should close it before the year end.
both the ans are correct and greg1313's ans is elegant.
here is my ans
$2^{10} = 1024 > 1000 = 10^3$
so $2^{100} > 10^{30}$

further
$2^{10} < 1025 < 10^3 * \frac{41}{40}= 10^3 *( 1+ \frac{1}{40}) $
so $2^{100} < 10^{30} * ( 1+ \frac{1}{40})^{10} < 10^{30} * ( 1+ \frac{1}{40})^{40}< 10^{30} * e < 10^{30} * 3$
so $10^{30} < 2^{100} < 3 * 10^{30}$
hence 31 digits
 
Re: number of digit

greg1313 said:
Speculation at this point; $1024^{100}$ has 302 digits. :)

your speculation is right as per http://mathhelpboards.com/challenge-questions-puzzles-28/how-many-digits-5251.html
 

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