How many edges does the graph have?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of edges in a graph where the vertices represent permutations of the multiset $\{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,9,9\}$. The edges connect vertices that can be transformed into one another by swapping two different integers, with a focus on understanding the combinatorial aspects of the problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the number of vertices in the graph $G$ is given by $\frac{11!}{3!}$, accounting for the repeated number 9.
  • Another participant suggests fixing a vertex and counting the edges connected to it, indicating that each edge corresponds to a transposition of two different integers.
  • A participant questions whether the number of transpositions $N$ corresponds to $\binom{9}{2}$, which leads to further clarification.
  • It is clarified that the total number of transpositions includes all pairs of coordinates minus those pairs where both are 9s, leading to the expression ${11\choose2} - {3\choose2}$ for the number of valid transpositions.

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Participants express varying approaches to calculating the number of edges, with some uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the transpositions and the total count. No consensus is reached on a final formula for the number of edges.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of transpositions and the treatment of repeated elements in permutations, which may affect the calculations presented.

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Hey! :o

Let $G$ be a graph of which the vertices are the permutations of $\{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,9,9\}$ with the property that two vertices $(\epsilon_1, \epsilon_2, \ldots, \epsilon_{11})$, $(\epsilon_1', \epsilon_2', \ldots, \epsilon_{11}')$ are connected with an edge if and only if the one is resulted from the other by exchanging the positions of two different integers.

How can we calculate the number of edges of the graph $G$ ? We have $\frac{11!}{3!}$ (because we have 11 numbers but the number 9 is appeared three times) permutations, and so we have $\frac{11!}{3!}$ vertices, right? I haven't really understood how we can get the number of edges knowing that. Could you give me a hint? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Hey! :o

Let $G$ be a graph of which the vertices are the permutations of $\{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,9,9\}$ with the property that two vertices $(\epsilon_1, \epsilon_2, \ldots, \epsilon_{11})$, $(\epsilon_1', \epsilon_2', \ldots, \epsilon_{11}')$ are connected with an edge if and only if the one is resulted from the other by exchanging the positions of two different integers.

How can we calculate the number of edges of the graph $G$ ? We have $\frac{11!}{3!}$ (because we have 11 numbers but the number 9 is appeared three times) permutations, and so we have $\frac{11!}{3!}$ vertices, right? I haven't really understood how we can get the number of edges knowing that. Could you give me a hint? (Wondering)
I would start by fixing a vertex $(\epsilon_1, \epsilon_2, \ldots, \epsilon_{11})$ and counting the number of edges connected to that vertex. There will be one such edge for each transposition of the form $(\epsilon_i, \epsilon_j)$, where $i\ne j$ and $\epsilon_i$, $\epsilon_j$ are not both equal to $9$.

If there are $N$ such transpositions then $N$ will be the same for each vertex, so the total number of endpoints of edges will be $\dfrac{11!N}{3!}$. Since each edge has two endpoints, the total number of edges is then $\dfrac{11!N}{2\cdot3!}$.
 
Opalg said:
I would start by fixing a vertex $(\epsilon_1, \epsilon_2, \ldots, \epsilon_{11})$ and counting the number of edges connected to that vertex. There will be one such edge for each transposition of the form $(\epsilon_i, \epsilon_j)$, where $i\ne j$ and $\epsilon_i$, $\epsilon_j$ are not both equal to $9$.

If there are $N$ such transpositions then $N$ will be the same for each vertex, so the total number of endpoints of edges will be $\dfrac{11!N}{3!}$. Since each edge has two endpoints, the total number of edges is then $\dfrac{11!N}{2\cdot3!}$.

Ah ok! And is N the number of transpositions of 9 numbers, i.e $\binom{9}{2}$ ? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
Ah ok! And is N the number of transpositions of 9 numbers, i.e $\binom{9}{2}$ ? (Wondering)
There are $11$ coordinates, and you can transpose any two of them provided that they are not both $9$s. So that gives you ${11\choose2} - {3\choose2}$ possibilities.
 
Opalg said:
There are $11$ coordinates, and you can transpose any two of them provided that they are not both $9$s. So that gives you ${11\choose2} - {3\choose2}$ possibilities.

I understand! Thank you! (Smile)
 

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