How many famous people in history

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of fame and legacy, particularly focusing on how many historical figures participants can recall without research. It touches on themes of mortality, remembrance, and the implications of being forgotten over time, with a specific emphasis on individuals who were famous before the 1960s.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reflects on their mortality and the transient nature of fame, estimating they can name about 500 famous individuals from history.
  • Another participant lists various categories of famous people they can recall, including US presidents, philosophers, scientists, and mathematicians, suggesting a broad scope of historical figures.
  • A different participant questions the obsession with being remembered and suggests that the average person could name at least 100 historical figures, emphasizing the futility of such concerns.
  • A quote from Arthur Guiterman's poem illustrates the inevitability of decay and the ultimate fate of historical greatness.
  • One participant proposes a focus on integrating human minds into supercomputers for immortality, while also expressing skepticism about the feasibility of lasting forever given the eventual fate of the universe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the importance of being remembered and the feasibility of achieving immortality, with no consensus on the value or implications of fame. Some participants are more optimistic about the number of famous individuals that can be recalled, while others challenge the significance of such memory.

Contextual Notes

Participants' definitions of fame and the criteria for historical significance vary, leading to differing perspectives on the number of famous individuals. The discussion also touches on existential themes without resolving the complexities of memory and legacy.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in philosophical discussions about fame, memory, and mortality, as well as those exploring the implications of technological advancements on human legacy.

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The other night I was contemplating my own mortality, as you do, and became rather depressed by the thought that in two or three generations after my death I'll be forgotten, after a couple of large perspective modifiers, I came to the conclusion that I'm in the same boat as the vast majority of the human race. So how many famous people can you name without having to do any research, just the ones that you can sit down and list? Not passing "celebs" but people who's name endures decades or centuries after their death. My personal definition has been they must be dead and have become famous before the 1960s. After a week of thinking about it about 30 minutes per day my total is about 500.
Please don't post your lists but just the number you can come up with.
 
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Famous people I can name. Most of the US presidents and founding fathers. A grip of philosophers from Aristotle to Nietzsche. Plenty of scientists and mathematicians. The list goes on and on.

But hey, cheer up! The majority (though not the 'vast' majority) of the human race is still alive! There are more humans living right now than have lived and died before them!
 
Why are you so obsessed with being remembered?

I cba to start counting but I think the average person with a high school diploma could name at least 100 people from history. What does it matter though? That won't bring them back. What we need to focus on is how to integrate human minds into supercomputers so that we can live on forever.
 
On the Vanity of Earthly Greatness by Arthur Guiterman

The tusks which clashed in mighty brawls
Of mastodons, are billiard balls.

The sword of Charlemagne the Just
Is Ferric Oxide, known as rust.

The grizzly bear, whose potent hug,
Was feared by all, is now a rug.

Great Caesar's bust is on the shelf,
And I don't feel so well myself.
 
Feodalherren said:
What we need to focus on is how to integrate human minds into supercomputers so that we can live on forever.

Even that won't matter unless we find a way to get off of this planet. In about 4 billion years, the Earth will either be swallowed up by the sun or be orbiting so close to it that everything is fried.

Even that won't be enough to last forever. Even if our supercomputers find a way to another planet orbiting a new star with many billions of years left, eventually that star will die out. In fact, eventually no new stars will be born as the universe trends to a state of maximum entropy. Then, everything will truly be forgotten.

Sweet dreams!
 

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