How many hours does it take to fill a 16m x 7m x 7m tank with water?

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The problem involves calculating the time required to fill a rectangular tank with specific dimensions (16m x 7m x 7m) using a water filling rate that increases over time. The original poster attempts to relate the volume of the tank to the arithmetic series of water filled per hour.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using arithmetic series formulas to relate the total volume of water needed to the increasing rate of water filled per hour. There are attempts to set up equations involving the first term, common difference, and the total sum required to fill the tank.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationships between the variables in the equations. Some have noted mistakes in their calculations and are correcting them while others are questioning the need for substituting known values into the equations. There is a recognition of the need to solve a quadratic equation derived from the setup.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that 1 cubic meter of water equals 1000 liters, which is relevant to the volume calculations. The discussion reflects confusion regarding the setup of the equations and the interpretation of the arithmetic series involved.

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Homework Statement


water fills a tank at a rate of 150 litres during the first hour, 350 litres during the second hour, 550 litres during the 3rd hour and so on. find the number of hours neccesary to fill a rectangular tank 16m x 7m x7m

Homework Equations


l=a+(n-1)d

S= n/2 (a+l)

where:

l = term
a = first no in series
n = nth term
d = common difference
S = sum

The Attempt at a Solution


volume of tank = 784

although it doesn't say i assumed 1m(3) is equal to 1000kg = 1000 litres

therefore water required to fill tank = 784,000 litres

a = 150

d = 200

what i don't understand is in either equation given for arithmetic progression there are 2 unknows?the answer is 88.3 hours
 
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You have 2 equations in 2 unknowns. Do you know how to solve a system of equations?
 
thrill3rnit3 said:
You have 2 equations in 2 unknowns. Do you know how to solve a system of equations?

not entirely, i attempted to replaced l in the 2nd equation to the answer for l in the first to give:

S= n/2 (a+(a+(n-1)d))

but i couldn't seem to get a decent answer from that
 
Substitute for a and d, which you know, and try a few value of n.
 
mister_tom said:
not entirely, i attempted to replaced l in the 2nd equation to the answer for l in the first to give:

S= n/2 (a+(a+(n-1)d))

but i couldn't seem to get a decent answer from that

You know a (first term), d (common difference), and S (sum, which is 784,000).

You're left with 1 variable, n, which is exactly what you're trying to find (number of terms/hours)
 
Mark44 said:
Substitute for a and d, which you know, and try a few value of n.

i don't understand sorry, why would i need to substitute values that i already know?
 
thrill3rnit3 said:
You know a (first term), d (common difference), and S (sum, which is 784,000).

You're left with 1 variable, n, which is exactly what you're trying to find (number of terms/hours)

the problem I am having now is although there's only 1 variable (n) there's 2 of them, and i need to get only 1 for the answer.

this is what i tryed:

S= n/2 (a+(a+(n-1)d))
2S = n (150+(150+(n-1)200))
2S = n (150+150+200n-200)
2S = n (150+(200n-50)
2S = n (100+350n)
2S = 100n+350n2

not sure if this is the right method or if it is where to go from here?
 
S is the sum of the series, so it's 150+350+550+...

It should total what is necessary to fill the container tank, right? So what do we substitute for S?
 
mister_tom said:
the problem I am having now is although there's only 1 variable (n) there's 2 of them, and i need to get only 1 for the answer.

this is what i tryed:

S= n/2 (a+(a+(n-1)d))
2S = n (150+(150+(n-1)200))
2S = n (150+150+200n-200)
2S = n (150+(200n-50)
Mistake in line below.
mister_tom said:
2S = n (100+350n)
2S = 100n+350n2

not sure if this is the right method or if it is where to go from here?
This is the right way, but you have a mistake, noted above.

You know S, so what you have (when you fix the error) is a quadratic equation in n. Hopefully, you know how to solve quadratic equations.
 
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ahhh brilliant thanks guys.

changing my mistake i get:

2 * 784000 = 250n + 200n2

giving:

0 = 200n2 + 250n - 1568000

then applying to a quadratic equation i get 87.921, not quite 88.3 but then I am assuming that 1 cubic metre of water = 1000 litres.

thanks again that confused me a lot more than it should have
 
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mister_tom said:
ahhh brilliant thanks guys.

changing my mistake i get:

2 * 784000 = 250n + 200n2
Looks like what you did is change to a different mistake.

This line looks fine (except for missing right parenthesis)
2S = n (150+(200n-50)
You need only one pair of parentheses, like so:
2S = n (150+ 200n-50)
mister_tom said:
giving:

0 = 200n2 + 250n - 1568000

then applying to a quadratic equation i get 87.921, not quite 88.3 but then I am assuming that 1 cubic metre of water = 1000 litres.

thanks again that confused me a lot more than it should have
 

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