How Many Non-Confusing Codes Can Be Formed from Distinct Digits?

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The problem involves forming a code of two distinct digits selected from the digits 0 through 9, with the first digit being nonzero. The challenge includes ensuring that the codes do not create confusion when viewed upside down, as certain digit pairs can be misinterpreted.

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  • Participants discuss the selection of digits, questioning the total number of valid codes and the impact of upside-down readability on confusion. There are attempts to clarify how many digits can be chosen for each position and the implications of distinct digits.

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The discussion is ongoing with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided reasoning for their counts of confusing pairs, while others are questioning and refining their logic. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive dialogue is occurring regarding the conditions of the problem.

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Participants note that the first digit cannot be zero and that certain digits (1, 6, 8, 9) can create confusion when viewed upside down. The requirement for distinct digits is also emphasized, which affects the total count of possible codes.

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An intelligence agency forms a code of two distinct digits selected from 0, 1 , 2…, 9, such that the first digit of the code is nonzero. The code, handwritten on a slip, can, however, potentially create confusion when read upside down - for example; the code 91 may appear as 16. How many codes are there for which no such confusion can arise?
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This is the methodology I used:
Since the first digit cannot be zero, therefore it can be chosen in 9 ways while no restriction occurs on the second number, therefore it can be chosen in 10 ways.Thus, the total number of ways is 10*9=90...

Since 1,6,8,9 can create confusion, therefore there exist 12 such numbers which will create confusion. However the pair 69 and 96 do not come under this category.
 
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Since the first digit cannot be zero, therefore it can be chosen in 9 ways while no restriction occurs on the second number,...
... there are not nine possible choices for the 1st digit. Which other digits are excluded?
1,6,8,9 can create confusion,
... there you go ... so how many digits may be chosen from for the 1st number and how many for the second number?
the pair 69 and 96 do not come under this category.
... good thinking - these are numbers that are the same upside down ... are there others? i.e. what about 11?
 
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Mod note: This post was a response in a separate cross-posted thread.Ok, I think I got it. Since they are distinct numbers, the first digit can be chosen in 9 ways (except 0) while the second can also be chosen in 9 ways, making it 81 numbers instead of 90.. So am I right this time?
 
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Robert Houdart said:
Since 1,6,8,9 can create confusion, therefore there exist 12 such numbers which will create confusion.
Are you sure it's only 12? Spell out your logic.
 
well , considering 69 and 96 total number pertains to 10
 
Robert Houdart said:
well , considering 69 and 96 total number pertains to 10
No, I mean I think you missed a few before discounting those two. I think it will help if you write out in detail your reasoning for the count of 12.
 
(16,61) (18,81) (19,91) (68 ,86) (89, 98) i think these are all (actually total number of numbers were 81 instead of 90 (digits must be distinct)
 
Robert Houdart said:
(actually total number of numbers were 81 instead of 90 (digits must be distinct)
Ah, that explains it. I missed that condition.
So now I agree with your answers.
 

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