How Much Do We Really Know About the Universe?

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The discussion revolves around the extent of human knowledge regarding the universe, exploring philosophical questions about what is knowable versus unknowable. Participants share their thoughts on the completeness of our understanding and the implications of our current knowledge in relation to potential extraterrestrial intelligence.

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  • One participant suggests that while we have made significant discoveries about the universe, there remains a considerable amount yet to be understood, proposing a view that we are "sort of half way there."
  • Another participant asserts that the extent of what is known is inherently tied to what is unknown, implying a complex relationship between knowledge and ignorance.
  • Some participants argue that we have a solid grasp of the relationships between phenomena but struggle with the absolute nature of things, indicating that our theories may be nearing the limits of the unknowable.
  • There is a viewpoint that questions the value of knowledge itself, referencing concepts like Laplace's demon and suggesting that not all knowledge holds equal importance or utility.
  • One participant expresses skepticism towards philosophical inquiries, arguing that many discussions ultimately hinge on definitions and semantics, which can lead to disagreements.

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Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the nature and extent of knowledge. While some believe we have a substantial understanding of the knowable, others emphasize the limitations and the philosophical complexities surrounding the concept of knowledge itself.

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The discussion highlights the ambiguity in defining knowledge and the potential for differing interpretations of what constitutes knowable versus unknowable information. Participants acknowledge that philosophical questions can lead to semantic disagreements.

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Excluding what is unknowable, and stuff that is made up (stories, soap opera plot lines, stuff like that), how much do we know that is knowable.

This is a semi-serious philosophical question, I'm not after a scientifically referenced percentage just opinions and thoughts from the highly knowledgeable forum congregation here.

But, I mean, we seem to know a heck of a lot and discovered the inner ticking clock workings of the universe to a degree over the last century in particular.

How much more is there to go? Have we got a mostly complete picture, or just half way there, or we are ridiculously naïve and know so little that if we met a vastly more informed and intelligent extra terrestrial species they'd look upon our level of intelligent understanding like we would look upon a slug?

I think we're 'sort of half way there' but haven't quite got all the data in yet to join up the dots. I fear that some people (particularly at political levels) think science holds all the answers already.
 
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How much is known is unknown.
 
We seem to know a lot about the relationship of things and less about the absolute nature of things and given that our most advanced theories are pushing at the frontier of the unknowable already, I think as a society, we know a lot of what is actually knowable.
 
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bob012345 said:
I think as a society, we know a lot of what is actually knowable.
Makes sense, we know what we know.
It also seems reasonable that we will never know what is unknowable.
 
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Doesn't this beg the question what is knowledge? What about Laplace's demon, for example. Not all knowledge is equally valuable to most of us. We all remember useless things that we would be happy to forget, for example.

This is why I'm not a fan of most philosophical questions, many ultimately boil down to definitions and semantics. Disagreements are usually the result of poorly defined questions.
 
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