How Much Energy Does It Take to Boil 3 Liters of Water?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy required to boil 3 liters of water starting from 20°C. Participants explore various methods and data sources to determine this energy, including enthalpy values and specific heat capacities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the energy using enthalpy differences and questions the validity of using constant specific heat capacities across a temperature range. Other participants discuss variations in specific heat values at different temperatures and the implications for accuracy.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, comparing different methods and values for specific heat and enthalpy. There is an ongoing exploration of the accuracy of these values and their relevance to the calculations being discussed.

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There are noted discrepancies in specific heat values from various sources, and participants are questioning the assumptions related to the constancy of specific heat and density of water at different temperatures.

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How much energy is required to boil off 3 litres of water from 20*C?

This is not really homework, but I still thought this would be the best place to post:
To get something to compare to in terms of energy (joule/watt), I would like to know approximately how much energy it takes to boil all the water in a standard kettle (3 litres).

I tried doing this with data from log p H (mollier) diagrams for water:
Enthalpy of water at 20 *C and athmospheric pressure from mollier: 86,6 kJ/kg
Enthalpy of saturated steam (100*C): 2676,1 kJ/kg
DeltaH= 2676,1 - 86,6 = 2589,5 kJ/kg
3 litres of water = 3kg so: 2589,5 kJ/kg * 3 kg = 7768,5 kJ required to boil 3 litres of water.

However when searching for this on google i only found another solution to the problem that did not match my answer using constant specific heat capacity and heat of vaporization:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_energy_is_needed_to_boil_water#ixzz18El72mGe

However according to wikipedia: "The specific heat capacities of substances comprising molecules (as distinct from monatomic gases) are not fixed constants and vary somewhat depending on temperature."

So using a constant heat capacity value from 20 *C to 100 *C would be wrong, no?

Are any of these methods viable? Which is better? They don't match up when i use his equation for my case (although I know it's partly because we have different values for heat of vaporization and it seems like he has mixed up some units in his description).
 
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The specific heat of liquid water changes with temperature, but not by too much. At 20C it's 4.183 (kJ/kg/K), while at the boiling point it's 4.219. If you need great accuracy you could fit a curve and run the numbers step by step (computers are handy things).
 
Ok, I've been looking at some tables to find a constant to use. They vary greatly. Here is even one from wikipedia where the specific hc is constant but the volumetric varies with temperature:

Water at 25 °C liquid: 4.1813 J/g*K - 4.1796 J/cm3*K
Water at 100 °C liquid: 4.1813 J/g*K - 4.2160 J/cm3*K

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_heat

Surely this must be wrong, as 1 cm3 = 1 g for water (density 1000 kg/m3)?
 
northh said:
Ok, I've been looking at some tables to find a constant to use. They vary greatly. Here is even one from wikipedia where the specific hc is constant but the volumetric varies with temperature:

Water at 25 °C liquid: 4.1813 J/g*K - 4.1796 J/cm3*K
Water at 100 °C liquid: 4.1813 J/g*K - 4.2160 J/cm3*K

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_heat

Surely this must be wrong, as 1 cm3 = 1 g for water (density 1000 kg/m3)?

Water changes density with temperature. In fact, it's got an 'abnormal' density versus temperature curve compared to other substances, particularly near the freezing point.
 

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