How much time does it REALLY take?

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The discussion centers around the time commitment associated with pursuing a career in physics, particularly in relation to different career paths such as academia, industry, and government roles. Participants explore the duration of educational requirements and the expected work hours after completing formal education.

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  • One participant expresses concern about the time commitment required for a physics career compared to other fields, noting a desire for clarity on the time involved in various roles.
  • Another participant suggests that all careers generally take decades from the start of work until retirement.
  • Educational timelines are discussed, with rough estimates provided for the duration of a Bachelor's, Master's, Ph.D., and post-doctoral work, totaling around 12 years or more.
  • There is a clarification that the time spent working in physics after education can vary significantly, with some working standard 40-hour weeks, while others may work 60 to 80 hours depending on their projects.
  • A participant mentions the variability in Ph.D. lengths based on geographic location, noting that in the UK and France, the durations can differ significantly from those in the US.
  • One participant suggests consulting a physics professor for insights on time management in the field, indicating that long hours may stem from passion for the work rather than obligation.
  • Another participant shares observations of post-docs and doctoral students, noting that their extensive work hours often reflect their dedication to their research rather than traditional work constraints.

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Participants express a range of views on the time commitment for physics careers, with no consensus on a specific number of hours worked or the overall time required for education and career advancement. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of work-life balance in physics careers.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about work hours and the variability of educational paths, which depend on individual circumstances and institutional requirements.

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I am very seriously considering going to the administration building tomorrow at Purdue and switching my major to Physics. I tried today but the entire place's computers crashed when I walked up to the counter... Omen? hahaha

Anyway, there is still one thing bothering me about it. I feel for some reason like Physics as a career will take a LOT of time compared to some other career. I'm not sure why I get this opinion, or if it's true, but it is the one thing still causing me issues. I have SO many interests that I'm not sure I could focus ALL of my time (meaning also the time that wouldn't normally be spent on the job) on my job.

I have been considering teaching as a professor, but I really don't know what I would like to do. How much time is involved with a Physics career? Could you maybe separate your answer into something like being a professor, working for the government or industry, and then working as some sort of theoretical/experimental physicist?

Thanks for any help :)
 
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Don't all careers take decades - from the time you start working until the time you retire?
 
Very roughly...
B.Sc. ~ 4 years
M.Sc. ~ 2 years
Ph.D. ~ 4 years
Post-doctoral work ~ 4 years
 
I'm pretty sure, Choppy, including the time dedicated to your final, *original* research thesis, your total grad school time is at least 5 years, maybe 6. If you (Mzachman) check out the American Institute of Physics website (aip.org) mouse over the Physics Resources tab and click on Statistical Research. It'll give you some good statistics, plus its based on people who actually go through grad school so you can trust the info you get.
 
Haha, sorry, I should have specified guys... I meant basically "time spent working during the week" once you're done with school. Compared to a standard 40 hours, how much would someone who is a professor, in industry, working for the government or otherwise work in physics?

That's good info about the schooling though, and I was wondering about that too, so thanks :).
 
Some work 40 hour weeks, some work 60 hour weeks, and sometimes there are 80 hour weeks if you have an experiment going on. There's no single number.
 
Nutterbutterz said:
I'm pretty sure, Choppy, including the time dedicated to your final, *original* research thesis, your total grad school time is at least 5 years, maybe 6. If you (Mzachman) check out the American Institute of Physics website (aip.org) mouse over the Physics Resources tab and click on Statistical Research. It'll give you some good statistics, plus its based on people who actually go through grad school so you can trust the info you get.

Irrelevant to the thread, but I should say that the length of a PhD varies vastly depending on where you go. In the UK, it's possible to do a PhD in two years (though that's an extreme minimum, I'm not aware of anyone actually doing it) and the normal length is 3 years however some may be funded for as long as 4. In other places, using France as an example, PhD programmes are limited to 3 years - so in most cases you need to be finished by that time.
 
I would recommend asking one of your physics professors about how they spend their time.

I think physicists may work long hours, but it's usually because they're excited by the work (and sometimes it seems like they are racing each other to figure something out first).
 
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yeah, even though I am still studying I know quite a numeber of post docs and doctoral students at my faculty. they all work al lot, but it is not really work for them, that's their life.
 

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