How Old are You? - Revisiting an Old PFs Thread

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The discussion revolves around participants sharing their ages and reflecting on the relationship between age, wisdom, and respect. Many younger members express frustration with adults who expect respect solely based on age, arguing that wisdom is not guaranteed with years. They emphasize that intelligence and knowledge can exist independently of age, with some younger individuals feeling more mature and insightful than older counterparts. The conversation highlights the distinction between knowledge and wisdom, suggesting that true wisdom comes from life experiences rather than just age. Older participants acknowledge that while age can provide opportunities for learning, it does not inherently confer wisdom. The thread also touches on the challenges of adolescence, including mood swings and societal expectations, while younger members express a desire to be heard and respected for their perspectives. Overall, the dialogue reflects a generational clash regarding respect, wisdom, and the value of experience.
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This was a thread in the old PFs, and I'd like to bring it back. So, everyone, how old are you?
 
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Old enough to know better!
 
Originally posted by Tom
30

Yeah, you turned on Christmas day didn't you?
 
'Fraid that's classified.
 
I am 14, by the way.
 
a fresh new 15 ahh smell that new age scent
 
15 and hating it. I just can't wait to grow old and tell adults to "Shut the **** up" without being told that I'm a little kid and should be respectful or being asked what my school is so they can complain about my obvious distaste for their "helpful advices on my moral code, etc".
 
lovely 22
 
27

and wow mentat, i would have guessed you at least 5 years older than you are. just goes to show how little age has to do with anything.
 
  • #10
A quarter century old.

You can also check birthdays and ages of those members who listed them by going to the 'Calendar' up at the top of the screen.

Isn't PF3.0 great?!?
 
  • #11
30, a great age
 
  • #12
23, about as old as I want to get.
 
  • #13
Just turned 70 ... And willing to get older
 
  • #14
33 in a couple of weeks



Nah, hopefully I'm a bit wiser now than I was years ago

Raavin :wink:
 
  • #15
27. And yeah, damgo, 23 is as old as I wanted to get too. Its not working out real well for me...
 
  • #16
Originally posted by kyleb
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and wow mentat, i would have guessed you at least 5 years older than you are. just goes to show how little age has to do with anything.

Thank you, kyleb. I have spent my entire life (seriously, this was one of my first conscious thoughts) trying to prove that the fact that someone was older didn't make them smarter. I have also learned that it doesn't make them wiser (no matter what anyone says), because wisdom = applied knowledge; so age doesn't bring wisdom, it just brings more chances to develop wisdom.
 
  • #17
Originally posted by Bubonic Plague
15 and hating it. I just can't wait to grow old and tell adults to "Shut the **** up" without being told that I'm a little kid and should be respectful or being asked what my school is so they can complain about my obvious distaste for their "helpful advices on my moral code, etc".

I agree (except for the part about telling them to "shut the **** up"). As I see it, a wise person would realize that age doesn't bring wisdom, but there are so few wise people.
 
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I agree (except for the part about telling them to "shut the **** up"). As I see it, a wise person would realize that age doesn't bring wisdom, but there are so few wise people.

Yeah. There are those people, who just because they are above the age of 25, they think that all little kiddies like me must show 'em respect, then they start preaching all about how we must be good little kids, etc. But heck! I give respect only when the person earns it, certainly not because of his/her age.
 
  • #19
Originally posted by Mentat
Thank you, kyleb. I have spent my entire life (seriously, this was one of my first conscious thoughts) trying to prove that the fact that someone was older didn't make them smarter. I have also learned that it doesn't make them wiser (no matter what anyone says), because wisdom = applied knowledge; so age doesn't bring wisdom, it just brings more chances to develop wisdom.


you are very right; but rest assure, there will be many people telling you otherwise until you are nearly as old as dirt. some people are just not wise like that no matter how old they are. :wink:
 
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I just turned 32 march 10,so happy birthday to me!1
 
  • #21
Originally posted by Mentat
I agree (except for the part about telling them to "shut the **** up"). As I see it, a wise person would realize that age doesn't bring wisdom, but there are so few wise people.

Fourty Seven years old!

Age may not bring wisdom, but it is only age that afford experiance, and it is only experience that can be the soil for the rooting of wisdom.

Experiance, and practical learning, and BOOK knowledge, are really the Fast track to education that lends itself in a direction of being capable of wisdom, in the first place, as all true wisdom is really very, very, old knowledge!
 
  • #22
Originally posted by damgo
23, about as old as I want to get.

You're speaking my mind. 23 as of February :(
 
  • #23
21. And this is as 'old' as I want to get too. I fear that by the time I figure out how to make my body maintain its age, I will already be too old, and so then I will need to find a way to make my body rejuvenate itself :frown:

Mentate and Bubonic, I too have spent my life marvelling at the stupidity of those old 'wise' people who have been so kind as to show me all the ways in which I will never allow myself to be.

I recall being around 15, and being frustrated at not being able to get into a pub or something like that, because I wasn't of a numerical designation that suited the law. The fact that I didn't want to drink alcohol nor smoke cigarettes, (and still don't) and the fact that I am most likely much more mature and intelligent than 90% of the people in the bar didn't mean anything.

(excuse the haughty nature of that paragraph, but its how I felt at the time, and still how i feel. I don't have much respect for people who actually go and hang out in bars drinking and smoking their lives away. I don't deny their right to do it, nor the fact that it is their own form of pleasure, while mine is something completely different, and that in its own right is OK...i still don't like it.)
(this probably has a lot to do with having grown up in a family where several family members and their friends are pretty much useless drunks 90% of the time. You grow up with that, and see if alcohol looks like a lot of fun to u.)
 
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at least we have members here appreciating their youth:wink:

seriously, i think if continue to learn and understand, "getting older" is not much of a concern...
 
  • #25
Am I the youngest one here again!?? Cool!

I'm still 13...I'll be 14 in a "few months" (7 months to go)
 
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Thank you, kyleb. I have spent my entire life (seriously, this was one of my first conscious thoughts) trying to prove that the fact that someone was older didn't make them smarter. I have also learned that it doesn't make them wiser (no matter what anyone says), because wisdom = applied knowledge; so age doesn't bring wisdom, it just brings more chances to develop wisdom.

Doesn't every teenager want to prove that age doesn't matter? It would be quite easy to prove... if anyone would listen to us"kids" long enough to see our point! There is that old saying wisdom comes with age. And I think that is partly true. But there is a different between knowledge and wisdom and no one ever said we don't have more knowledge bwahahaha


Anyways I agree with you too if you notice I said i PARTLY believe that saying just because wisdom can also be things you have experienced in your life and since they have lived longer... you know
 
  • #27
at least we have members here appreciating their youth

Whats there to appreciate? Childhood is a totalitarian regime, all we ever do is get ordered around by "wise" adults.

I'd like to correct the adage "Wisdom comes with age", instead it should be "Ego comes with age".
 
  • #28
22. that's as old as i need to be. it's all down hill from here :wink:
 
  • #29
31 and smack in the middle of the midlife panic.
 
  • #30
Originally posted by Bubonic Plague, and Mentat

15 and hating it. I just can't wait to grow old and tell adults to "Shut the **** up" without being told that I'm a little kid and should be respectful or being asked what my school is so they can complain about my obvious distaste for their "helpful advices on my moral code, etc".

I agree (except for the part about telling them to "shut the **** up"). As I see it, a wise person would realize that age doesn't bring wisdom, but there are so few wise people.

Is it possible that what you are really missing is that you actually are intimidating to some adults? And that these kinds of reactions from them, are, simply put, their intellectual self-defence mechanisms? That they scurry back into their own safe intellectual environment by plying the ¡°time dependencies of learning¡± against you, just so they can hold onto their own sense of intellectual self worth, in your presence?

Is that, possibly, the answer you need to see/know?
 
  • #31
Originally posted by RageSk8
18

Another prime example, of how older people do not have a monopoly on wisdom.
 
  • #32
Originally posted by MajinVegeta
Am I the youngest one here again!?? Cool!

I'm still 13...I'll be 14 in a "few months" (7 months to go)

And few older ones have such an inquisitive mind, Majin.

This is an important point as well. You see, I said that age affords one more opportunities to learn; however, while this is still true, there some younger people (like MajinVegeta) who have such a zeal for learning, that they can easily make up for their lack of "experience".
 
  • #33
Originally posted by Nicool003
Doesn't every teenager want to prove that age doesn't matter? It would be quite easy to prove... if anyone would listen to us"kids" long enough to see our point! There is that old saying wisdom comes with age. And I think that is partly true. But there is a different between knowledge and wisdom and no one ever said we don't have more knowledge bwahahaha


Anyways I agree with you too if you notice I said i PARTLY believe that saying just because wisdom can also be things you have experienced in your life and since they have lived longer... you know

So how old are you, Nicool?
 
  • #34
Originally posted by Mentat
And few older ones have such an inquisitive mind, Majin.

This is an important point as well. You see, I said that age affords one more opportunities to learn; however, while this is still true, there some younger people (like MajinVegeta) who have such a zeal for learning, that they can easily make up for their lack of "experience".
I have always been curious, but this zeal for learning has only really been a recent thing for me. I wish I did this sort of stuff (Reading as much as I can, PF, things like that) when I was 13, 14 etc. If i had started back then, then Jeeze...what would I know now.

Majin, Mentat...I got to stay in contact with you two =) As you get older, you will find that you are leaps ahead of everyone else when you get to uni. Not necessarily top marks getters (though probably), but simply knowledgeable. You will be able to think for yourselves, you will have insights, and novel ideas... It'd be great to start out at uni like that. I've learned it in my time here, and am only just this year really able to apply it...
 
  • #35
Originally posted by Bubonic Plague
Whats there to appreciate? Childhood is a totalitarian regime, all we ever do is get ordered around by "wise" adults.

I'd like to correct the adage "Wisdom comes with age", instead it should be "Ego comes with age".

i think you have quite an ego for whatever age you are for claiming that those who get older get a bigger ego...i suspect you are still a child yourself for believing this about childhood and adulthood, if you are an adult stating this, then i suspect you to be just plain ignorant...
 
  • #36
i think you have quite an ego for whatever age you are for claiming that those who get older get a bigger ego

I apologize for collateral damage and if i had been too harsh and crude with my words. Sorry.

i suspect you are still a child yourself for believing this about childhood and adulthood

Pherhaps you went through a different childhood from mine, so you disagree with my views, but ultimately this is what i think childhood is, relative to my experiences. My views will no doubt change with time. But these are the views i currently hold.
 
  • #37
I'm 33, and unlike many of you, I hope to get much older. I think it beats the only other alternative.

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I really wish all the little kiddies (under 25) would show some respect. They really must try to be good little kids; it's their duty. I mean, really, what do they want, us to earn their respect? I didn't make all those mistakes for my own benefit, I made them so that I could tell you what to do and what not to do! Really!
April fool...
 
  • #38
Originally posted by Another God
I have always been curious, but this zeal for learning has only really been a recent thing for me. I wish I did this sort of stuff (Reading as much as I can, PF, things like that) when I was 13, 14 etc. If i had started back then, then Jeeze...what would I know now.

Majin, Mentat...I got to stay in contact with you two =) As you get older, you will find that you are leaps ahead of everyone else when you get to uni. Not necessarily top marks getters (though probably), but simply knowledgeable. You will be able to think for yourselves, you will have insights, and novel ideas... It'd be great to start out at uni like that. I've learned it in my time here, and am only just this year really able to apply it...

I thank you. I'm not sure that I'm going to college/uni., but if you think I'd do well (having actually been there, yourself) I might consider it.
 
  • #39
38

Mentat, do what ever you must to get through college. I never finished. While I have about 150 credit hours in varying disciplines, I've still have no degree.

Of course, if you want to skip that whole college thing, you can come live with me in the trailer park.

Let see, go to college, get a well paying job, live in a nice house, or live with Alias in the trailer park. Hmmmm. Tough decision.:wink:
 
  • #40
I'm 14, and its kind anoying. Too many mood swings.
 
  • #41
I have to agree with J Man..I too am 33(I couln't remember! Man that is bad!) and I am enjoying every second of it! I can't wait to see what life is going to be like in 5 years! It will be awesome I'm sure!
 
  • #42
On many forums i am 15 :) like this one, in my user profile, but really i am 19, tho my birthday is not march 18 either :)
 
  • #43
I'm 20.

I can remember my younger days when I considered most adults rather lacking in the area of common sense, just by observing their actions in certain situations.

Now that I'm older, I still think the same thing. However, I've come to a realization that such people DO deserve respect...until they prove to me otherwise. Kinda like benefit of the doubt.

The older a person is has little to do with their knowledge or lack thereof. But the highly touted "wisdom" is a tangible, real thing, and the only way to gain in wisdom is to live life and learn from experience. Knowledge can be gained in my ways and at varying speeds. But wisdom comes almost exclusively from life experience.

My two cents ;)

Considering
 
  • #44
I'm physically 19. Mentally, I'd say around 5.
 
  • #45
Originally posted by MacTech
On many forums i am 15 :) like this one, in my user profile, but really i am 19, tho my birthday is not march 18 either :)

So, why don't you register as your actual age?
 
  • #46
19 years 133 days + some unassorted seconds...
 
  • #47
Originally posted by Considering
I'm 20.

I can remember my younger days when I considered most adults rather lacking in the area of common sense, just by observing their actions in certain situations.

Now that I'm older, I still think the same thing. However, I've come to a realization that such people DO deserve respect...until they prove to me otherwise. Kinda like benefit of the doubt.

The older a person is has little to do with their knowledge or lack thereof. But the highly touted "wisdom" is a tangible, real thing, and the only way to gain in wisdom is to live life and learn from experience. Knowledge can be gained in my ways and at varying speeds. But wisdom comes almost exclusively from life experience.

My two cents ;)

Considering

I agree with that. I felt the same way when I was a teenager. Now I'm 23 and life experience has bring me more wisdom.
 
  • #48
I am 21.

It's great to see so many young highly intelligent people on at these forums.
 
  • #49
At 33 (well on April 8th) I would hope that I have gained some wisdom. I thought I was wise at 15. That's why I left school and went to work. That's why I never did any homework and didn't absorb any of the Mathematics that teachers tried to teach. I knew what was important. Now I'm not so sure what's important. I know I have regrets about decisions I made but as the saying goes, the more you know, the more you don't know. I'm a youth worker by trade and if I was going to be completely honest, a damn fine one. Why, because I know I don't know everything. Others in my field 'know' they have wisdom. I hope when I talk to younger people and use examples about my own experiences, or give advice, that they can take something from it. Regardless of what you think now, you will feel the same way. You may have ideas about how your future will unfold and the person that you will be, but life doesn't work like that. Relationships will be made and broken, you will hurt people and they will hurt you. You will make mistakes that haunt you when you go to sleep and you will have restless nights, abuzz with the pleasures that the day brought you. You will plan how you raise your children then, when it happens, throw all the ideas out the window. You will have emotions that you think will never end and later they will seem like a fleeting moment. Don't close yourself off to the idea that you are not different and possibly more wise with every passing day. I wouldn't wish that for you. When I see a 13 year old and a 40 year old who are emotional peers I don't see a 13 year old with the wisdom of a 40 year old, I see a 40 year old with the wisdom of a 13 year old. You could read 10 textbooks a day for ten years and you couldn't learn about yourself what you could learn by living for one.

There are many here that at a very early age, showing great intelligence. Far more than I can say I have. Intelligence is applied book learning. Wisdom is applied life learning. There are no shortcuts to either. I've still got a ways to go with both.

Raavin
 
  • #50
Well said Raavin. (I'm 42 by the way)
 

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