How stellar aberration was quantified in the early days

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The discussion revolves around the quantification of stellar aberration, particularly how it can be measured given the shifting positions of stars due to Earth's motion. Participants explore both the theoretical and practical aspects of measuring this phenomenon, referencing historical methods and challenges faced by early astronomers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes measuring the angle between the north celestial pole and the position of a star to account for one component of aberration but expresses confusion about quantifying the perpendicular component.
  • Another participant notes that the entire sky appears to shift towards the direction of Earth's motion, which changes over time and creates a yearly distortion in the star patterns.
  • A question is raised regarding how to detect motion in the East-West direction and what serves as an absolute reference for this measurement.
  • It is mentioned that the aberration effect is more pronounced with stars at larger angles, with a significant variation in angular position observed over a year.
  • One participant points out that comparing a star to its surrounding stars is complicated due to the aberration affecting nearby stars.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the detection of East-West motion and the practical challenges faced in measuring it. There is no consensus on how to quantify this aspect of stellar aberration, and multiple viewpoints are presented without resolution.

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Participants reference historical challenges faced by astronomers, such as those encountered by Bradley, in measuring East-West aberration due to practical difficulties. The discussion highlights limitations in current understanding and measurement techniques.

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I am working through "Spacetime Physics" and encountered exercise 3-9, which concerns aberration of starlight. They ask the following question: "Since the background of stars also shifts due to aberration, how can the effect be measured at all?"

I got part of the answer. You measure the angle between the north celestial pole and the position of the star. It shifts depending on what time of year it is. That takes care of one component (I think). But I am puzzled as to how you quantify the aberration in the direction perpendicular to this.

Well in the pdf https://www.colorado.edu/physics/phys2170/phys2170_fa06/downloads/stellar_aberration.pdf it says that Bradley did not record the East-West aberration due to practical difficulties. So that perhaps answers my question.
 
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The whole sky "moves" towards the direction Earth is moving to (as seen from the Sun), and this direction changes over time. This distorts the pattern of the stars with a yearly cycle.
 
The motion in the north-south direction can be detected by reference to celestial north. How is the motion in the East-West direction detected. What is the absolute reference for east-west direction?
 
mfb said:
The whole sky "moves" towards the direction Earth is moving to (as seen from the Sun), and this direction changes over time. This distorts the pattern of the stars with a yearly cycle.

The aberration affects the stars around the star you are observing, so you cannot simply compare the star to the stars around it.
 
With stars nearby you won't see a strong effect, with stars at larger angles you will see one. The angle between stars at 90 degree angles (e.g. one in "forward"/"backward" direction, one in "outwards"/
inwards" or "upwards" or "downwards" direction 6 months apart) varies by up to 40 arcseconds over a year.
 
Thank you
 

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