Half Comes From Where? Understanding the Origin of 1/2

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The discussion centers on solving the integral of the function 1 + cos(2t) and understanding its limit as T approaches infinity. Participants confirm that the integral evaluates to t + (1/2)sin(2t), and they emphasize the importance of correctly applying limit theorems. A key conclusion is that the limit expression simplifies to 1/2 for any T ≠ 0, provided the limit of sin(2T)/(2T) approaches 0 as T approaches infinity. Missteps in sign and integration techniques are also addressed, highlighting common pitfalls in calculus.

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Let me know how 1/2 comes from it.see attachemet
 

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Have you tried anything for yourself?

Solve the integral and see if you can simplify the limit to transform the expression into a form that you know the answer to.
 
i tried a lot but answer goes wrong..
i didn't touched with calculus since long time...May be it is because of this...
For the integral of 1+cos(2t) gives 2T+sin(2T).
 
waqarrashid33 said:
i tried a lot but answer goes wrong..
i didn't touched with calculus since long time...May be it is because of this...
For the integral of 1+cos(2t) gives 2T+sin(2T).

Yes that would probably be the problem then.
\int1+\cos(2t)dt=t+\frac{1}{2}\sin(2t)

Start from there.
 
waqarrashid33 said:
i tried a lot but answer goes wrong..
i didn't touched with calculus since long time...May be it is because of this...
For the integral of 1+cos(2t) gives 2T+sin(2T).

Try solving your improper integral (for 1 + cos(2t) you will get anti-derivative t + 1/2sin(2t)) and then expand into F(T) - F(-T), collect your constant outside of the integral (1/2T) bring it together and you will get a limit expression in terms of T where T goes to infinity.

There are limit theorems you can use to solve this also.
 
Thanks...
 
waqarrashid33 said:
Thanks...



Interesting: you don't even need \,\,T\to\infty\,\,. It is 1/2 for any \,\,T\neq 0\,.

DonAntonio
 
DonAntonio said:
Interesting: you don't even need \,\,T\to\infty\,\,. It is 1/2 for any \,\,T\neq 0\,.

DonAntonio

Not quite, the final steps of the solution are to simplify \frac{1}{2}\left(1+\lim_{T\to a}\frac{\sin(2T)}{2T}\right)

and that expression is only equal to 1/2 if \lim_{T\to a}\frac{\sin(2T)}{2T}=0 which only happens for a=\infty
 
Mentallic said:
Not quite, the final steps of the solution are to simplify \frac{1}{2}\left(1+\lim_{T\to a}\frac{\sin(2T)}{2T}\right)

and that expression is only equal to 1/2 if \lim_{T\to a}\frac{\sin(2T)}{2T}=0 which only happens for a=\infty



I don't know how you got that. I get
\int_{-T}^T \cos^2(t)dt=\left[\frac{t+\cos t\sin t}{2}\right]_{-T}^T=\frac{1}{2}\left[T+\cos T\sin T-\left(-T-\cos(-T)\sin(-T)\right)\right]=\frac{2T}{2}=T
as \,\,\cos(-T)\sin(-T)=-\cos T\sin T\,\, , and then
\frac{1}{2T}\int^T_{-T}\cos^2 t\,dt=\frac{1}{2}
like that, without limit...

DonAntonio
 
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DonAntonio said:
I don't know how you got that. I get
\int_{-T}^T \cos^2(t)dt=\left[\frac{t+\cos t\sin t}{2}\right]_{-T}^T

How did you get that?

\cos^2t=\frac{1}{2}\left(1+\cos(2t)\right)

Oh ok I see what you have, after integrating you converted sin(2t) to 2sin(t)cos(t)

DonAntonio said:
\left(-T-\cos(-T)\sin(-T)\right)

This should be

\left(-T+\cos(-T)\sin(-T)\right)
 
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Mentallic said:
How did you get that?

\cos^2t=\frac{1}{2}\left(1+\cos(2t)\right)

Oh ok I see what you have, after integrating you converted sin(2t) to 2sin(t)cos(t)



This should be

\left(-T+\cos(-T)\sin(-T)\right)


Yes indeed. So much worrying about the change of sign in the sine of -T that I forgot I had that minus sign out of the parentheses. Thanx.

DonAntonio
 

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