How to Convert Miles to Kilometers with a Conversion Chain

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The discussion revolves around converting miles to kilometers using a conversion chain, specifically examining the definitions of units and the accuracy of conversion factors. Participants explore various methods and expressions for these conversions, highlighting potential errors and ambiguities in their calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a conversion chain starting from the definition $1 \text{ in.} = 2.54 \text{ cm}$ to find kilometers in a mile, noting a discrepancy with Google's conversion of 1 mile to 1.60934 kilometers.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative conversion chain using feet and inches, providing a detailed breakdown of the units involved.
  • A participant critiques the initial setup of the conversion chain, suggesting a clearer expression that maintains dimensional consistency.
  • Concerns are raised about the exactness of certain conversion factors, particularly the historical context of the inch definition.
  • Some participants express confusion over the conversion process, indicating that they are unable to replicate the expected results despite following the methods presented.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of including a placeholder term in the conversion setup, with one participant questioning its necessity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for performing the conversions, and multiple competing views on the setup and accuracy of the conversion chains remain evident throughout the discussion.

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Some participants highlight that certain conversion factors may not be exact, and there are unresolved issues regarding the clarity and correctness of the mathematical expressions used in the conversions.

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Starting with the definition $1 in.=2.54 cm$ find km in 1 mi
$1 mi= \left(\dfrac{2.54cm}{1 in}\right)\left(\dfrac{63360 in}{1 mi}\right)\left(\dfrac{1 km}{100000 cm}\right)= km$
google says 1mi=1.60934km so something wrong with my conversion chain

here is a collection MHB replies I am sending to friends probably a typo here and there
using orangedox to count the downloads so far 5
https://dl.orangedox.com/6rStfn4eMFHuHvAKuX
 
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$\dfrac{5280 \, ft}{mile} \cdot \dfrac{12 \, in}{ft} \cdot \dfrac{2.54 \, cm}{in} \cdot \dfrac{1 \, m}{100 \, cm} \cdot \dfrac{1 \, km}{1000 \, m}$

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karush said:
Starting with the definition $1 in.=2.54 cm$ find km in 1 mi
$1 mi= \left(\dfrac{2.54cm}{1 in}\right)\left(\dfrac{63360 in}{1 mi}\right)\left(\dfrac{1 km}{100000 cm}\right)= km$
google says 1mi=1.60934km so something wrong with my conversion chain

here is a collection MHB replies I am sending to friends probably a typo here and there
using orangedox to count the downloads so far 5
https://dl.orangedox.com/6rStfn4eMFHuHvAKuX
The units on the LHS are miles and the units on the right are km/mi. It's a sloppy way to set this up. I'd write it this way:
[math]1 ~ \text{mi} = \dfrac{1 ~ \text{mi}}{1} \cdot \dfrac{63360 ~ \text{in}}{1 ~ \text{mi}} \cdot \dfrac{2.54 ~ \text{cm}}{1 ~ \text{in}} \cdot \dfrac{1 ~ \text{km}}{100000 ~ \text{cm}}= 1.609344 ~ \text{km}[/math]

Also, many conversion factors are not exact. For example, it is true that 5280 ft = 1 mi exactly. But there didn't used to be exactly 2.54 cm in 1 in. (The inch was redefined after WWII.) So as long as your answer is at least close to the "correct answer" you are fine.

-Dan
 
Starting with the definition $1 in.=2.54 cm$
find ft in km
$ \dfrac{1\ \cancel{in}}{2.54 \cancel{cm}}\cdot\dfrac{1\ ft}{12\ \cancel{in}}\cdot 10^5 \cancel{cm}$

google says $1 km = 3280.84 ft$

couldn't get it altho a simple problem
 
karush said:
Starting with the definition $1 in.=2.54 cm$
find ft in km
$ \dfrac{1\ \cancel{in}}{2.54 \cancel{cm}}\cdot\dfrac{1\ ft}{12\ \cancel{in}}\cdot 10^5 \cancel{cm}$

google says $1 km = 3280.84 ft$

couldn't get it altho a simple problem
Again you are being sloppy in how you are setting this up.
[math]1 ~ \text{km} = \dfrac{1 ~ \text{km}}{1} \cdot \dfrac{100000 ~ \text{cm}}{1 ~ \text{km}} \cdot \dfrac{1 ~ \text{in}}{2.54 ~ \text{cm}} \cdot \dfrac{1 ~ \text{ft}}{12 ~ \text{in}}= 3280.84 ~ \text{ft}[/math]

I don't know why you didn't get the Google answer.

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
Again you are being sloppy in how you are setting this up.
[math]1 ~ \text{km} = \dfrac{1 ~ \text{km}}{1} \cdot \dfrac{100000 ~ \text{cm}}{1 ~ \text{km}} \cdot \dfrac{1 ~ \text{in}}{2.54 ~ \text{cm}} \cdot \dfrac{1 ~ \text{ft}}{12 ~ \text{in}}= 3280.84 ~ \text{ft}[/math]

I don't know why you didn't get the Google answer.

-Dan
not sure why you have as the first term $\dfrac{1 km}{1}$ ?

this problem was a very popular online but so many sacred cows it just got more?
plus too much become a member with cc and we will help...
its better just to stay here
I was getting the numbers correct but the decimal was always way off
 
karush said:
not sure why you have as the first term $\dfrac{1 km}{1}$ ?
You want to know how many ft are in 1 km, so I started with 1 km. The 1 in the denominator is just a placeholder.

-Dan
 

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